(1 Peter 1:23 & John 3:5 and the water referred to in 3:5 is the word of God). --------------------------------------- Wotsup, I find most of what you say is without support from the Scriptures. Your above comment is just one example.
Generally Mr G, I will not write something unless I know full well I can back it with scripture. Often and possibly a mistake, I assume you and others would be up to speed with the relevant support verses. But, as I said, that's probably a big mistake.
But at the same time, if at times you think I am at error, your endeavors to correct me, counters from the Bible, are most welcomed, I am always ears, so to speak.
Jesus's Baptism, now I am sure you would know, Jesus was born Under the Law? John 1:33 - And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Spirit.
John 4:10 &14 - Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water. But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
John 7:38 - He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.
Isa 12:3 - Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation. Psa 36:9 - For with thee the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light.
I'll assume it doesn't need explaining to you, that the Water Jesus is referring to here is, the word = the word of God. And the water, life, flowing out of some people will be, the word = the word of God?
John 12:49 - For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. These words of the God and Fathers --> John 6:63&68 - It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, theyare spirit, and they are life. Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
Born again --> 1 Peter 1:23 - Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God=(Spirit), which liveth and abideth for ever. John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Jesus we are told would baptize and that would be via the Spirit and not by placing someone in water. In fact, Jesus placed (baptized) no one in literal the water. Water, from the above verses is clearly shown to be, the word = the word of God. 1 Peter 1:23 makes it Clear, you are born again via the word of God, makes no mention that you must be submersed in water. God's word is also Spirit;
John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Jesus was to Baptize with the Spirit,..... and the word of God is also Spirit and the Water is also referred to as the word of God,..... then the water is also Spirit. To be born of water, the word of God and by the Spirit of God is to be; John 1:13 --> Born of God.
Based on the above, there is no way you can say that being born of water cannot be deemed as, being born of the word of God. -------------- I find most of what you say is without support from the Scriptures.
That's a bold statement Mr G, now the Bible would expect you to do your duty and Back this statement up and that should not be hard for you, as you say, "most" of what I say is without support. We all await the evidence, support Mr G, as lets get real, you don't want to be a bad witness now, do you?
