The essence of the facts

Originally posted by wafflehead: ↑

Given the current status of creation, I suspect that this is not the best option.

A fine response and I thank you for taking the time to reply.

Now this, current status of Creation, is an imagine process gleaned from a Bronze Age introduction to the processes of natural order. It spoke eloquently to the capacity of the times, today if taken literally it's the ramblings of a simpleton I don't have a clue how we got here, but I think there is a Cause behind it, because as I have said many time before, I can't get my head around a self-perpetuating universe, life, sentience, etc.

Regardless of what I think, my thoughts can only be vague generalisations. I have no real conviction, just enough to argue for some type of Cause to be included in the list of possibilities. I think that Creation and natural order / evolution, are the same thing. The only thing I accept with some certainty is the proofs expounded by science.

Every age has its challenges. This age has the greatest challenge that will ever confront humanity, that being globalisation. We will be sorely tested before we come out that other side. We are in the early pangs of becoming a global society and the cultures and isms are rubbing up against each other like tectonic plates sending earthquakes all over.

I get why the good folk get a bit doomsdayish, but what possible service to humanity can such nonsense serve. If we all join their religion it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Have you ever seen the Illustrated Man? A community all dream the same dream of some impending, catastrophic event, so they all agree to poison their children in their sleep so they don't suffer. When the adults wake in the morning nothing has happened, except the catastrophic event was them killing all their children for the sake of a dream. That's what these doomsday cults do, they poison the minds of their children with negativity. All of humanities problems will be solved by humans.

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When I posted "Given the current status of creation, I suspect that this is not the best option" (an intelligent creator),
I didn't have this in mind.
Now this, current status of Creation, is an imagine process gleaned from a Bronze Age introduction to the processes of natural order.

What I had in mind was things like these in the current creation:
Genetic disorders that mean that some suffer from these disorders that they inherited.
We live on a dangerous planet plagued by storms, earthquakes, tsunamis etc
We live in a dangerous universe in which the earth suffers from periodic mass extinctions which have led to opportunities for new species to evolve - a rather strange approach for an intelligent creator.
In nature, many species have to kill to live and others have to breed at incredible rates to ensure enough individuals survive to produce subsequent generations.
Like is or not complexity can evolve without a special intelligent intervention which is the basis of the Theory of Evolution.
There are more.

To me, this status of creation suggests that the current status of creation is much more likely to be the result of blind natural processes than an intelligent creator.
The natural processes that we understand don't require an intelligent creator, and I don't see any reason why the ones that we don't understand should require one. I'm not an advocate for the God of the Gaps.

Thank you for engaging with me on this topic.

PS I don't go along with the idea that some evil being created by the intelligent creator is allowed to be responsible for the issues outlined above.