Where to now for long term investors of Telstra, page-9776

GR,just to comment on the foolish posts regarding down ramping of this stock.Its not me that is doing the down ramping.Besides various other serious issues created by this management when penn delivers a reduced ebitda fy20 result of $7.5b resulting in an eps of .153 cents,then goes on to 'down ramp' fy21 guidance to $6.5b with an obvious reduced eps to approx .135 cents for fy21 only a fool would 'up ramp' that guidance,especially considering eps trend.
Plus the various other serious issues.
imo only we are not there yet,any one with an interest in taking over tls will wait for nbn to be rolled out,maybe a write down in tls purple,reduced eps reported fy21 etc etc then I believe 'maybe' some one could show some interest in buying tls.Or we get a ceo that understands whats required and acts.
ps on a bright note besides tls ventures,i phoned origin energy yesterday,even tls's automated answering service is better.I had to ph 3 times .The difference is it is very easy to change energy providers,its not easy to change telecommunications.
I can only think the frustration created if you had to phone origin regarding nbn.
ps just like the banks i can't see myself buying tls or the banks for probably at least 12 months.Unless a new ceo replaces penn and like what he/she says.
gl