geni there are all the little things in the jumble some trigger events may just put it in the note holders favour but that is yet to be seen .A company directer working in favour of holders probably wouldnt have spilled his guts and got a better deal that maybe would have been better for banks shareholders as well.Its not pretty the out come now its working for the better of regulation and of course gaining shareholder value somewhere in this mess .There will always be some germ who will work out a loop hole get paid a brick load and damm every one else.The market has become nothing more of a gambling den in the last few years bring back the fair value and reason for public listed companies.I think if the banks have a pretty good idea where they get shorted and pleaded to be protected why wasnt the rest of the market taken into account .Think about it you place a stop loss i bet they add them all up no where its going even the other way if its going up even when you place a limit order there would be a calculation going on there .The internet brokerage arms are good but are open to be abused .Just my way of thinking.
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