Not sure about seeing 4000, but I'm confident the lows are behind us. While good economic news is hard to find, some company reports are showing some signs of a recovery, or at leat the news is not as bad as it was.
Must remember, we are at pretty low levels from the highs no matter how you try and measure today to past bear markets. I also think we slid into this quite quickly, arguably quicker than the great depression, and I think it will bounce out much quicker than most pundits are predicting with China leading the charge.
good luck to all
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