"Anytime billy. You produce a fact about the matter under discussion and we will see if it stands up to analysis and can be confirmed as fact. So far all you have produced in this thread are opinions which you pass off as facts."
Hi dave. I know it hurts to face the facts but I think it is very unfair of you to make me prove every word I write when you do exactly the same yourself (without providing evidence). I would have thought the onus would be on you to prove me wrong but I know you can't so I can understand your resort to a personal credibility attack.
Well you did say anytime so I look forward to your analysis of the evidence I have provided.
Oh and dave, please provide evidence too this time and not your opinion of what you had sadly confused as unprovable facts within my argument.
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'Don't blow $10by on booze, gambling'
AAP December 08, 2008 08:51am
FAMILIES and pensioners cashing in on the Federal Government's $10.4 billion handout package today have been warned not to waste it all on booze and pokies. The Government is handing over $4.8 billion to pensioners and $3.9 billion to families in a bid to to keep cash flowing through the economy and ward off a wave of sackings from money-starved businesses.
Parents will receive $1000 for each child while single aged-pensioners will receive lump sum payments of $1400 and couples $2100. For the plan to work, the money needs to be spent not saved.
Opposition frontbencher and former health minister Tony Abbott has said he does not begrudge struggling families getting a one-off payment to spend before Christmas, but he fears some could blow the chance to help the economy.
"There are very credible fears that at least some families, particularly in some areas, are going to be spending this money on booze and gambling and so on and that's a pity," Mr Abbott said on ABC Television.
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We are not doing anything different to what we would normally do prior to Christmas," a Woolworths spokeswoman said.
"All our indications are that many people will be putting the money towards their credit card debt."
RUDD "I know the Government will inevitably face some criticism about how some of this money will be spent. The Government understood this reality when it embraced the stimulus package. I've urged pensioners and families to spend this money responsibly, to use this money to make ends meet.”
But Malcolm Turnbull suggested today the generous handouts would have been better delivered as tax cuts - an idea dismissed today by senior economists, who believe it is more likely to be spent if it is a one-off hit.
“In a climate like this people are very much inclined to save one-off payments like this,” the Opposition Leader told the Fairfax Radio Network. “This is an economic equivalent of a one-off sugar hit.”
“If you want a more effective fiscal stimulus, tax cuts, across the board tax cuts, particularly targeted at lower and middle-income earners, are going to have a greater impact.
“People will see them as being permanent, they'll seem them as encouraging work, to invest, to hire people and so forth,” Mr Turnbull said.
