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    I didn't bother replying to your dumb copy cat post before about understanding.

    I figured that at your age, with your life experience ( allegedly wink.png ), you should be able to see through all the bs. Through all the political waffle. But for some reason, there seems to be a blockage in your head.

    That's the bit I don't understand.

    I talk to a lot of older people. They are great sounding boards. Particularly when comparing ideas because as I get older ( and more informed )) I am surprised how my thinking has changed.
    I look back at the things I did or the opinions I had when younger. Things I did because mostly that's what my small group of peers did . I am amazed at how wrong I was even though I was sure I was right at the time.
    I now know that the ' so important ' small group of peers were also poorly informed and mostly driven by fear and insecurity. They just thrived on bs and bravado. The rest of us kind of just followed along to a degree.

    So, these days when I talk to older more experienced people I relate that story. To which they concur every time.

    I ask them about what they have seen in life and how things have changed. They tell me about the " good old days " e.g. where you could drive around, no seatbelts, as fast as you like, full of ink and people dying was just something that happened on the road. In Victoria in 1970 they started a " declare war on 1034 " road safety campaign because of the number of deaths that year in Victoria. Australia's population was 12.5 million.

    In 2019, the whole of Australia had a road toll of 1194 for a population of 25 million.

    Victoria in 1970 almost had the same number of deaths as Australia ( with twice the population ) in 2019 !!!!!

    When I ask these older people about those things they say it's amazing how accepted road deaths were back then. Why it seemed normal for people to get blind drunk and drive home with the kids in the car. It was just something that happened and was largely accepted. They can remember the days of arguing that speed limits, seat belts and drink driving laws were ridiculous and the government was being too heavy handed.

    Sound familiar ????????

    Of course they reflect now and they realise how ill-informed they were about something that was right in front of them and affected everyone personally.

    Now those people can sit back and objectively look at the information in front of them. They have the ability to limit their biases because they have seen their biases work against them in the past e.g. in the example about road deaths.

    It makes complete sense for someone with plenty of experience, life or otherwise, to have a different opinion to those with little experience. The experience is the difference.

    So. I find it hard to understand all these old posters, including you, that rabbit on quoting unqualified shock jocks commenting for cash and ignoring world class scientists that we trust for everything form medicine to engineering. You'll listen to a politician with voters working in coal mines whose brother is on the board of a coal company but you won't listen to Australia's chief scientist.

    That's the bit i don't understand. You are either a fossil troll or you're just plain stupid.
 
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