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05/03/21

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Originally posted by Treefern ↑

There's no need to speak to me like I'm an idiot as a form of argument, Pinto, I'm not one and it's not helpful.

Yes, it is factual, but your OP suggests that in being attractive to men, women are the root cause of the harm criminal males do to them as a result of being successfully attractive to them (among other things). That is grossly inconsistent with contemporary societal values, but not that far removed from values of a couple of hundred years ago, and current practice in Islam.

Again, I'm not sure why you are placing the burden of rape prevention (among other things) on the victim.

Would you use the same argument against all men wearing cologne, in case homosexual men are sexually aroused by the scent and decide to commit crimes against them. Should a man who raped (sexually assaulted, roughed up, gave a light squeeze to, anywhere along the spectrum) a nice-smelling man be in a position to use your view as a defence for his crime?

And, Ms Robbie aside, how do you reconcile the issue of naturally drop-dead beautiful women who wear no make-up? How are they supposed to protect themselves from men who are turned on by their natural beauty and find themselves unable to prevent themselves from raping her? I'm assuming you wouldn't suggest the rape of a naturally gorgeous woman by a man to be the woman's fault. How do you reconcile their plight given your position on the guilt of women who are sexually attractive to men? Surely any form of sexual attraction a woman exudes would be an issue for you, not just artificial attraction enabled with make-up?

You don't think your position is a bit heavy-handed?

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"Again, I'm not sure why you are placing the burden of rape prevention (among other things) on the victim."

and again - it's you who have taken the argumentative leap into space about rape - not me

the mere mentioning that you think you might be treated as an idiot reflect that you are worried you have been one perhaps

the discussion is about attraction and the false signalling of attraction -

that signalling - false or real brings consequences - not all of them bad

false signalling is the issue here - and, IMO - the cause of most of the complaints from women

a pretty easy fix
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