KookeBoy All fine now..as usual my inexperienc ..finger probs? An excellent charting program but will need a bit of study but thanks to very good tuts should not take long!! Now for a newbe can you explain what a "bot" is? I gather it is something to do with small time related trades?? Is his correct?? Thanks..and for others i dont want to turn this thread into a "learning forum" and would like direction if there is such an Astralian site?? Thanks to all for you patience Don