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Originally posted by zipperlip: ↑

You picked Norway as the Poster Child to support your premise that nations/countries can carry their less prosperous citizens along the Green Highway, not me.

My point was that Norway is the country you use as proof but the main reason that they have the ability to do this is based on their oil reserves/sales.
That they can actually afford to do this.

Have they put a moratorium on oil exports?
Surely that would cut out more Co2 than switching to EV’s?

As for NSW or any other state that exports coal?
They will still make money out of coal because we just like Norway won’t ban exporting our ff’s, they will just stop ourselves using it.

Wouldn’t not exporting it but using it ourselves be more beneficial to the environment and us?

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Hey Zippo

When I wrote:

"... and surprise surprise, I know that Norway is very different to Australia..."

I thought I would have made clear that the discussion is not about Norway, but about strategies that make EVs more affordable to low income people.

I must say, I am surprised by the tack you are taking. Most other arguments against using Norway as an example are made around it generating most of its domestic electricity through renewable energy - i.e. hydro power.

That argument is just as irrelevant as yours about them having gained their prosperity through the sale of oil, since...

...the issue that was being discussed here was strategies that make EVs more affordable to low income people.

The transition towards sustainability will be difficult and take a long time, so both Norway and NSW are taking small incremental steps in that direction... by transitioning to EVs that will be mostly powered by locally generated renewable energy.

... just that Norway started the journey in the early 1990's, while the Liberal NSW government only took its first tentative steps... two weeks ago.

Given we are on the same path, it might just make sense to compare what strategies the leader has employed in the quest to make EVs more affordable got low income earners, no?

I am sure that ultimately, neither Norway nor NSW will be able to maintain their fossil fuel sales, be it for export or for domestic consumption.

Both will have to look for other sources for the generation of prosperity... it appears to me that Norway is more advanced in their thought process... by roughly 40 years.

If you believe that the best approach for both Norway and NSW is to stop exporting their fossil fuels right now - in order to remove any appearance of hypocrisy - I am happy for you to argue the case on a seperate HC thread. It should make for an interesting discussion.

Just in my humble opinion, transitioning to EVs is perhaps a more doable approach.

This transition will also simultaneously see an accelerated transition to renewable energy. As more and more nations progress along this path, fossil fuel markets - both for petrol used in transportation and coal used in electricity generation - will evaporate over time.

By leading the way in the EV revolution, Norway is effectively kick starting the transition by showing others how it can be done. Hats off to the Norwegians!