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    Not completely accurate, Hydrogen cell development R&D has been extensive and corrosion is being addressed using polymer electrolyte fuel cell membranes (PEMFC's) as a barrier between the cathode and anode where electrolysis occurs.

    There is no evidence that Hydrogen fuel cells corrode within 10 years, where did your info come from?

    It is well known that Hydrogen Fuel Cells in vehicles are lighter than Lithium Batteries, have a longer driving range, can be pressurised and made available at petrol stations which we can refuel as fast as we do currently with petrol or LPG.

    I am aware that rapid EV charging is being developed to speed up EV charge-up times, am also aware that Charging stations are already planned around Australia.
    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/3693/3693695-60198b0eca972ed015cb6d256bf50741.jpg


    We can store, transport, and dispense LPG safely, and Hydrogen is no exception. there is a lot of talk around I read on HC that Hydrogen is highly flammable. Yes, this is true, but so is LPG which thousands of vehicles around Australia run on LPG.

    Decades ago (am showing my age) when LPG was introduced there was fear about volatility, safety, and risks way back then. LNG can be safely transported via ships and trucks, as will be the same situation for Hydrogen fuel.

    Correct is that initially Hydrogen will be used as a stored power source as a backup auxiliary power source especially in remote locations around Australia. And initially be used to fuel transport vehicles, trains, buses and then be available for the domestic market.

    Motor vehicle companies around the world have already developed motor vehicles using Hydrogen fuelled cells. Hyundai, Toyota, Hyzon Motors (truck and bus manufacturers) plus ++++, Twiggy is now using Hydrogen fueled Trucks in FMG's mines to clean up his "dirty" one-trick pony iron ore mining company, hence his diversification into the Hydrogen space.

    "First order of hydrogen trains in France – a historic step towards sustainable mobility"
    https://www.alstom.com/press-releases-news/2021/4/first-order-hydrogen-trains-france-historic-step-towards-sustainable

    "Swedish truck manufacturer Scania says it's evaluated hydrogen fuel cells ... and development operations in favor of battery-electric power".

    The list goes on DYOR. Lithium-ion EV's are our current future but IMO we will have a mix of both, including Hydrogen fueled cars, it is naive to believe that Lithium-Ion Batteries are our only hope for zero-emission vehicles.

    This image shows the basic principles of Hydrogen fuelled motor vehicles.

    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/3693/3693544-53b49effe2328f2a9c5b2254c6524aa0.jpg
    This is the flow chart
    https://hotcopper.com.au/data/attachments/3693/3693638-afdf647684fb0c8aaa9e34d4f2fb65ad.jpg

    I research extensively about Zero Carbon emissions in the energy sector and my strategy is diversification including Li+, hydrogen and second-tier widgets we need to reach our carbon emission targets including Redox-Flow batteries, Cadmium Iron Batteries.

    Twiggy announced his strategy to develop in Australia our own hydrogen electrolysers, now thats a widget we need to be economically independent of other countries for supply.

    GEV I have looked at investing in for 6 months, now might be the time. My suggestion is to invest in second tier ASX companies needed to reach our Zero Carbon future.

    CSIRO are developing "next generation of Solid Polymer Electrolytes (SPEs) for lithium batteries using CSIRO’s proprietary RAFT (Reversible Addition-Fragmentation chain Transfer) polymer technology" https://www.energymagazine.com.au/csiro-to-develop-next-gen-lithium-batteries/there is also development of a iron-cadmium redox flow battery (Fe/Cd RFB).

    We also have to consider the unethical mining of cobalt in South America and other REE's LIT batteries currently need. Given the political status between China, exports and commodities, I believe the world is moving away from being reliant on China which currently contains and controls 90% of rare earth commodities.

    Consider also that Elon will not invest in unethical mining culture, Lit batteries need REE's like Cobalt South America has plenty of REE's but unethical mining is not favoured by Elon and other car manufacturers ... there are other options to fuel our cars .... Hydrogen being one. Elon is not a dill and I believe that he is already considering, planning and developing hydrogen fuelled vehicles.

    My background for 40 years has been science based, I just don't often contribute technically to HC. What I have written is such a basic precis of my research.

    Stay alert and dont put all of your eggs in one basket is my opinion. Lit ion batteries are here now, but will they be our only future to fuel vehicles? I doubt it.
 
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