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Dolci u said can’t find exact could be moderated post But that UBS and Morgan plus one other nereana ?have been buying etc I think it was around 150 plus million that is a lot for just Australian investors one would think so do you think they could be representing overseas interests and could a entity in different name companies representing a mother company be buying and if so in different names be hiding just under the 5 percent mark at the moment in each individual name that the broker represents. 300 million plus would be 20 percent and that is I believe when they have to announce a takeover. Someone does not buy that many shares at the moment without wanting to get on board of directors which can be 5 percent. So could you sniff out from your Morgan Stanley bloke some more info to see if overseas interest.