hi friend i can possibly fill youin with my experience....i always go to most discussed tab...saw ltr with lots of excitement....i watched and listened then did research.....i liked what i found....decided to buy in very cheap 5c ......then noticed Avz guys over in ltr teasing them haha.....well, then i decided to check these guys out as well .....I LIKED WHAT I RESEARCHED......so i thought daily double.....bought in at 18c best 2 investment + pam i had ((paid 13c for PAM ))......my other now is ixr ....hotcopper is a great tool ....i have great expectations on AVZ .....loving the ride and told friends and family....good luck all