You misunderstand me on the first point. If one has Covid, it doesn't matter the source, that was my point.
"A bit flat" is not an adverse reaction. To date there have been 12,000 claims made that necessarily included hospital stay as a result of adverse reaction to the vaccine. That doesn'nt include people that missed work but didn't spend time in hospital. Missing work due to adverse reaction to vaccine is definitely an adverse reaction. The 12,000 number has yet to be authenticated by a successful claim, but given that one of the prerequisites is to have spent at least one night in hospital it's a fair bet most of them will be successful.
My view on vaccine mandates in this instance would not waiver regardless of the level of vaccination. One can't grant someone an option to do something on a voluntary basis, and if they don't take up the option it becomes compulsory. Under that paradigm there was no choice in the first place, just a disguising of authoritarian overreach.
I have no problem at all with the mandatory wearing of masks, no more than I have a problem with the mandatory wearing of proper (or any) clothing in an appropriate context. In fact, I will be saddened to see them go, if that's what our 'experts' decide. They have been an incredibly effective tool, one that has seen (as I've stated) zero infections in supermarkets despite hundreds of millions of interactions. Add sanitiser and common sense I suppose, but masks have been a hit.
At some point (isn't it coming soon?) the states will open back up to vaccinated citizens only, with few or no restrictions, and the thing will go mental again (view Israel, Gibraltar, I think Ireland) because old vaccines are (as of latest research) particularly weak, and the vaccinated will be pushed to get jabbed to 'protect the vaccinated from themselves' and maintain a 'status' rather than a threat level.
It still comes back to a reasonable expectation that under no circumstances would a government purporting to be leading a free country force its citizens to take a new vaccine without long term understanding of the downside when it is (barely) protecting a very small proportion of the population that can be better protected without invading every citizen's personal space and just using some common sense.
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