This is the Jesus (Brother) I know;
BREAD -> Eph 3:9 - And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things.-> (Isa 44:24, alone by himself).
That is the Bread that came down,.......conception and then the birth of the 2nd Adam = Man.
Prior to this, Jesus was a plan hid in God.
Like the 1st Adam, the 2nd didn't pre-exist.
Eph 3:9 (Bread) is part of what the meaning of the Word means in John 1:1.
...............and the Word -> Eph 3:9 was with the God and God (not Jesus) was the Word.
At 1:14 you see part of the Word manifested as another part, Gens creation, has already taken place -> John 1:3.
To boot, God comes into the human temple at 1:14;
John 14:10 - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
The Jesus to be, was the beginning of creation, the firstborn of creation,......all in the mind and plans of God.
Your creations no matter who you are, begin in you.
Matt, Mark and Luke make it VERY CLEAR as to the timing of Jesus's literal beginnings.
Look it up, Jesus says he came "forth", "out" from God = Eph 3:9 etc.
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
Isa 55:8 - For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith Yahweh.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
So shall my word be that goeth forth out -> (Eph 3:9) of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
