Eid al-Fitr, page-93

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    John
    14:10 - Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

    Wotsup,
    This verse does not help you. It is a supporting verse for the Trinity.
    It doesn't just say that the Father is in Jesus but Jesus is in the Father. Does not Jesus say that he and the Father are one?

    Wotsup,
    Why do you go back 6 verses to only find such weak support for your denial of the divinity of Jesus.
    If you go back only 4 verses you would read

    John 16:28
    28I came forth from the Father and have come into the world; again I leave the world and go to the Father.”

    There you have it Wotsup, Jesus pre-existed in heaven and came forth from the Father.

    But why go back 6 verses or even 4. How about 2 verses

    John 18:6
    Therefore when He said to them, “I am He,” they drew toward the back and fell to the ground.


    Wotsup,
    Thomas has heard that Jesus has come forth from the Father and came down from heaven .
    He has heard Jesus declare that he is the "I am"
    and after Jesus was resurrected from the dead
    Thomas said

    John 20:28-29
    28Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
    29Jesus says to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those not having seen, yet having believed.”

    There you have it Wotsup, you can keep denying Jesus
    or accept and believe that Jesus is Lord and God and be blessed for it.
    Last edited by tonio: 18/05/22
 
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