Just listened to "honest conversations" Dr (don't forget that he's a doctor) Jim Chalmers speaking at a press conference about the 1 trillion in debt he was left by the other side of politics ... Perhaps his idea of an honest conversation doesn't include acknowledging that his side racked up the first 350 billion of that trillion on school halls and insulation etc. and baked in an expansion in budget expenditure into the years beyond their tenure through programs such as the "everybody wins a prize" NDIS ... Can't wait for the honest conversation to begin.