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16/08/22

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Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

I don't suggest an ideal world - -all I suggest is trying a different system. If it works better - good, if it doesn't - well, if it doesn't - then chuck it.

"how do you propose that we do these things "democratically"."

as far as I have read - basically the pillars of democracy really boil down to gov. by the people, for the people, of the people -------- etc..

democracy as far as I can see in the designs - does NOT require election of representatives. One doesn't need elections to get fair representation -

AND - it's pretty clear that the election process now - actually gives something that is NOT democracy. At least - I would not call it fair representation.

Sortition solves all of that. Yes, there would be some details - but, they would not be difficult IMO.

Juries are not 'elected' - they are selected. They are filtered out for bias and a couple of other things - the process - whatever we think of it - works better than how our political choosing works.

If one sits back and thinks about all of the problems we have in politics, politicians, graft, corruption, lobbying, donations, gifting etc etc.

all of it comes down to the selection process - the election process.

dump the election process - and, those problems are non existent. (as long as there are some solid rules in place for when the gov is operating)

simple, elegant and effective

at least - it should be.

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so you've done that reading I suggested.... good for you mate... sortition in the Athenian model was exclusive of many and included only the upper level of landed gentry.

the New Democracy Foundation identifies a much broader base for sortition. How its applied will be determined by an overwhelmingly independent parliament, if at all.... no way would the duopoly allow such a change.
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