The First Commandment

Originally posted by wotsup ↑

Now don't go raving on that this subject has been done to death, if you keep making statements on the subject, then expect replies.

In John 10 Jesus presents Himself as the Good Shepherd and, in a debate with the Jewish leaders, makes the claim, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30). It was a bold statement—one His audience found quite audacious—and it reveals much about who Jesus is.

Five key observations can be made concerning this passage. First, Jesus claimed to be one with God in the sense of being equal to Him. Jesus did not claim to be merely a messenger or prophet of God, but of equal power with God.

From the get go, you are adding words/messages to "I and the Father are one" with zero grounds to do so when you consider Jesus's own interpretation of what I and the Father are one really means, further along in John.
Jesus is saying they are one in UNITY.

John 17:20 - Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one,even as we are one: -> (I and the Father are one).
I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Based on you rational, the ones that become one as God and Jesus are, can claim to also be God.

The issue of Jesus verses people in 17:20 etc, is totally irrelevant to the message.

1 John 3:2 - Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

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First of all, it’s not up to me as who replies to my post, so far, I’m concerned you can keep quoting my post all day long, again, so far, I’m concerned much of your replies have no substance at all as most are misquoted from lack of understanding just like you have done here.

What you fail to address here in your reply is that there is a difference between Jesus and humans, the likes of you and me, depends on Jesus, he does not

Jesus doesn’t need faith to be in union with God

Jesus took the form of humanity to share our experience uniting creation with the divine after the fall of Adam and Eve

We are united with Jesus in faith of what he’s done for us on the cross and resurrection, by uniting ourselves with Him, in turn He unites us in unity with the Father as he is united, making us children of God as He is the Son also

There is a big difference between Jesus union, what He is with God and ours what we are with God, which seems you were not able to differentiate in this post.

You got my reply, now I’m done