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26/12/22

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Originally posted by tangs: ↑

yes agree about casualty figures

but I never mentioned casualties but ground taken which is much more an objective measure

where has regime change led to a better outcome ...I'd say Iraq if that is recent enough , big improvement on Sadam IMO and no longer aiming to kill their own people
(you'll notice the US got out and have no influence in the country )
but yes , very good chance whoever replaced putin would be more of the same ....possibility of improvement only
(even a bad leader would still stop the war though as it is no longer is in russias interest or winnable IMO- simply blame putin and cut losses)

nuclear blackmail cannot be allowed to succeed either or it will be repeated
little chance of Armageddon here but more chance of a tactical nuke being used
taking a less risky path can be more risky longer term

russia I believe will be forced back inside it's borders and hopefully end this expansionist phase once and for all
the bargaining point may be crimea - slightly different situation - a proper vote would be fairest

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If you think Iraq was a success in terms of regime change and where the country has been since,...I think you've missed the past couple of decades of history in the area

Not a bad coverage of th e issue of regime change

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/more-things-change-more-they-stay-same-failure-regime-change-operations#introduction
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