One will never know if NGOs' played key or supporting roles in the world of foreign policies with any definite answers unless carelessness like the Nuland tapes. Both events are history with very negate consequence culminating do you do the math.
Does it matter in the end if MR were bogus, 400K Ukie soldiers have died and it's still SMO numbers. A very similar battle cry on Bakhmut Holds and while it held, dupes were tossed Copium daily to flex their verbage.
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