hey treefer..... its my opinion only.... isn't everyone entitled to hold an opinion? like you for eg.?
now you want to discuss a win:win scenario? what would Putin want for a win? Putin is the aggressor here (or do you think Kyiv is aggressor?).... so what would Putin want?
his whole plan was to invade and conquer Ukraine in toto from the start. would Putin be content simply to retain Crimea? and call that a win?