Russia Ukraine war

Originally posted by tangs ↑

well ....if you don't know that history there's something wrong with you

the russian expansion occurred in 1945 - huge and easy after what the Germans had left behind and completely unjustifiable to annexe , absorb and control all those many other nations

but they were unable to maintain control because their economy failed and the iron curtain finally fell and civilised russian leaders pre putim allowed nations absorbed into the USSR to operate independantly

then there was putin .....who vowed to return what he believed belonged to russia - do you seak to deny ?
expansionism returned !
Putin maintained Lukoshenko in power by threat of force and stuffing ballot boxes in Belarus , putin went into Georgia and has three times attacked Ukraine
if he was able he would be doing a lot more but the hated NATO prevents that

NOW ....YOU TELL ME .....why does the biggest country in the world need to steal a smaller countires land ...and how can that NOT be expansionist?

And the other thing you've been avoiding ....you say russia attacked Ukraine over security concerns ......this would be the pefrect time for NATO to attack russia if they were ever going to ....why haven't they ?
And why , if russia were truly concerned by that has putin stripped all his troops from the NATO border to fight in Ukraine ?
Leaves him very vulnerable .

There is no doubt at all that this war was an opportunistic land grab .
Q.E.D.

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NATO v Russia.

NATO would have liked that, but Russia is not Serbia or Libya. The US sees the situation in Ukraine as a regional conflict and they want it to remain a regional conflict. Note the term used. Conflict.

The key to diplomacy is to limit the potential for war. While the current war of Russian illegal invasion into Ukraine is tragic, chaotic and devastating, it is still a regional conflict.”
“If NATO or the US sent troops into Ukraine to help them fight the Russians, the dynamic would shift to a multinational conflict with potential global implications due to the nuclear power status of both US and Russia. Because of that, the US and NATO — and other nations around the world — are attempting to influence the success of Ukraine and the defeat of Russia by providing other types of support,” Hertling said.

As a result, NATO is extremely reluctant to become directly involved in the Ukraine conflict with a rival nuclear power. While it supports Ukraine’s resistance and recognizes Putin’s actions as an invasion of a sovereign nation, the alliance is simply not prepared to do anything that could be interpreted as a direct act of war on Russia and risk an escalation that could lead to the use of nuclear weapons.

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