YES response

Originally posted by Tapdancer: ↑

I'm finding it hard, Scott, to empathise with self-righteous sore loser democracy-hating ideologues post-referendum. They're not saying "it's a shame that we don't have a constitutional Voice"; they're saying "you No voters should be ashamed of yourselves for voting the way you did".

Greg Craven - genuine in his desire for improved outcomes for the disadvantaged - summed up the reasons for the loss in such a direct and incisive manner, that you would be hard pressed to think he was on the same side of the vote as these embittered power merchants.

Mayo, Langton, Pearson - all lacking objectivity and maturity. Yeah, blame the electorate, blame the Coalition, blame it on misinformation, blame colonialism, blame Democracy, blame the economy, blame it on Murdoch, blame it on Credlin....watch out Kamahl, because YOU'RE next.

Arrogance + poor model + lack of detail + opacity + disdain for history + deception + unfocused campaign + misunderstanding of Australian psyche = real reasons for the loss. Double shame.

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well that makes you just as bad as the ones you complain of tappie..... "Double shame" implies a doubling of your shame for despising them for doing exactly what you're doing.

your gross exaggeration and hypocrisy speaks volumes of your bitterness, yet you were gloating over Yes! supporters way before the vote was held due to the swing from the great majority supportive of the Voice to the majority, never as great as 70+%, voting the Voice down and out.

don't you understand why they are bitter? they had all their hopes for improving the lives of the most oppressed people in Aus, for helping the Gov to apply laws and projects better designed so as to be far more effective. ending the over representation of Aboriginal people in the bins around the country, giving young Aboriginal people hope so they would stop taking their lives, helping drunk and violent fools from being drunk and violent..... don't you get why they wanted the Voice at all?

so Double shame on you tappie for your insightless arrogance to think less of people for the hopes being dashed. do you really think they weren't every bit as genuine as you say of Craven? your self-righteousness exceeds any that I have seen or imagined even on the Yes side.

Double shame? much more than double,.