Fair enough whereu The point I'm asking,is who decides what is a cult or not? Who is the adjudicator? Who is the one who passes judgement on this matter? Is it orthodoxy that makes this judgement? I'm asking the one who uses the term,does he understand it and its detail? Or do others? It's sort of like a derogatory tone that if you are branded with it,most won't even hear you ,because of bias,is this fair and reasonable? Macarthyism?