"But the presumption that the Libs will fall apart is just hope from a hater."
Not at all - I am a keen student of politics and its rich history and i see all the old sign disunity - the Libs should have renewed after the defeat of Howard but got scared and reverted to the right.
As I keep saying - the Libs have learned nothing and keep repeating the same mistakes. it lost them the 07 election and it has cost them office this time also
They have to change and there are younger centrist members who are well aware of this and will make their move.
