Russia Ukraine war, page-203054

what you and Olceg continually fail to grasp is .....this is up to the Ukrainians !

You also avoid the fact that Ukraine expects putin will come back again .....as he keeps doing .
Ukraine have western support and don't want putin to wait for another opportunity where they don't have as much support .

And they want their lands back ....and putin is not pre-disposed .

Further putin has said a condition is that this government of Ukraine is removed ,......that is not something that can be seriously considered ....in effect putin wants political control over Ukraine .....I think you do too !

Stop trying to maek it a sin to defend your own country .....for as long as Ukraine want this war to continue ....they should be supported .