HAMAS MUST BE STOPPED NOW., page-1305

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    I really don’t know what you are trying to say to me Yes I am connected to some well known and talented Jews - or those with Jewish bloodlines - and also to some who were scoundrels and to others that were just ordinary people trying to get on with their lives

    the fact is it means absolutely nothing anyway - we all do the best we can, and die regardless but in any case I believe you were the one who asked questions about my connections. Maybe you didn’t expect me to answer

    of course I know the difference between Judaism and Zionism. What an earth makes you think I don’t. But if you read many posts the line has been blurred for many by lumping all Jews into one. My view is simply that if people want to do that with Jews we do it to all Christian’s, atheists, Muslims, Hindus Buddhists and whatever other less obvious religion there is so they the sins of one are visited on all

    As for whether Jews are a separate ethnic or religious group - theres been plenty of debate about that. Hitler ran the ethnic line and I guess when people link all Jews into a single group they are doing the same. But that doesn’t account for conversion either or the fact that sone people might be Jews through a matrilineal connection but not observant. Are they or are they not then jewish. I guess however I would have been at risk under Hitler but I’m not Jewish

    just as I understand the difference between being an observant Jew, (and could be liberal or orthodox) secular Jew and a Zionist I am also well aware that all Muslims are not fundamentalist in their views or jihadists.

    To the issue of Jesus. I’d suggest you don’t know much about real history - let alone the biblical version of Jesus. To the latter - Jesus was not accepted by the Jews in general as either their king or saviour/messiah. In fact it is quite likely that the Jewish version of messiah was unite different from what Christianity later turned it in to. And Pilate was the one who ordered Jesus’s death. (And if you want to you can use Josephus to confirm that )


    of course you could go with non Christian scholars who have found no convincing evidence for Jesus anyway. But whichever way you want to go your paragraph about Christ/jesus/messiah is plain wrong

    The ones who think that war in the Middle East is a prelude to the return of the messiah are apocalyptic Christians

    so whether you were inclined once to support Israel is no relevant to me - what I am concerned about is his easily people bend history, twist facts and make stuff up.


 
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