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02/05/24
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Originally posted by pintohoo:
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the part I disagree with is the inference that comes with ''until someone has the knackers to put a stop to it .'' that kind of infers - applying law, finding offenders and dealing with crimes and there is the problem ---------- it's like other social issues -------- police cannot arrest a societies way out of crime violent behaviour cannot be bashed out of people by - bashing (the application of violence) etc First - one has to recognise a problem --------- that's been long enough coming then - society and leadership etc have to recognise predictors of future continuance of the issue/problem and we can see on here in crystal clear evidence by posters - that most - have absolutely no idea of the predictors then, if society can identify such predictors - then, how can society change CONDITIONS, to assist those predictors to have limited or no, if possible effect on producing fresh crops of perpetrators or victims now ------------ if some say ----------- go hard on the perpetrators ------------ find them, arrest them, harshly punish them - etc etc fine - if one wants to believe that bullshit will help ----------- then fine ---------- but, the boneheads who say that - ask them what they are going to charge the victims with - what crime did they commit?????? oh wait - they didn't ------------------ BUT, we know that the biggest predictor of all is that - along with perpetrators - that victims will go on to create future DV wow -------------- work through that one???????????? not so squeezy for the 'go hard gang' so - in reality. If one is to really put a generational brake on it - there has to be a complex set of interventions - and that word 'complex' has a scary affect on the bonehead 'go hard' brigade - they just don't do complex. there is also another set of annoying factors which influence the plot - and some of them are social changes - like the huge shift towards singledom -- and as much as many of my enlightened collegues on here think I'm a dill for bringing it up -------------- the great surge to AI partners - AI girlfriends and boyfriends - which to me - is strong evidence that when we get real, virtually real robotic partners - then our societies will take them up at astonishing levels - we HAVE the evidence. And that will be a gamechanger - because if you only have one human in a dwelling - you won't get domestic violence between 2 humans - that is 'impossible' and it will also remove such issues as sexual frustration and the behavioural anxiety and aggressive tendencies that brings. It will also remove anger and it's often attendant response of violence due to jealousy - a partner having an affair etc.. But, many simple minds poo poo that idea as if it's never going to happen - even in the light of strong evidence - that it's already happening - and BEFORE virtual realism.
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You impose hard consequences on the perpetrators and at the same time educate the victims on an ongoing basis. Seeing the consequences is a part of the education. I would point out that NOT SEEING ANY CONSEQUENCES is also an education - a bad one that is likely to make the behaviour persist. If you have to do this on a large scale then thats what you do. You bite the bullet and get it done. Because if you don't in 20 years time we will be in exactly the same position.