nothing new that we haven't heard before angus, and nothing new that haven't been rebutted by Catholics
I'm not going to bite, if they are such hot issue with you I suggest first get rid of any ill sentiments that you harbour and with an honest eye and heart do your own research on both sides , for and against
Go to Catholic Answers and see what they say, search with a sincere heart and then bounce it off where your views are coming from and who and why they suggested such things
