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KIERAN GILBERT: And you've said there's a future for gas. It's a crucial transition fuel. It's a part of your government strategy. I just want to get your thoughts on Lily D'Ambrosio. She was asked by my, my colleague in Melbourne, Simon Love, about this, “Is it time for a reset with Madeleine King?”. He's talking about the differences over gas. And Lily D'Ambrosio says, "look, no, you know, I'll always deal with the Commonwealth in a way that makes sense for Victoria, but we know Victorians support our ambitious targets". How do you get Victoria to see the reality of the need to have gas as a transition fuel?

MINISTER MADELEINE KING: Well, I agree with the Victorian Government. I agree with their ambitions to go to renewables and given that Victoria has such a high reliance today on power used by brown coal, their challenge is quite large. So, I support what Minister D'Ambrosio is doing, and they have said that they support gas as a transition fuel. And just last week, of course, Minister D'Ambrosio approved an offshore project. But more's the point I think sometimes the media like to blow up this into an argument. It simply doesn't exist between me and Minister D'Ambrosio. But really importantly, the Future Gas Strategy is not about, you know, more new gas. It's about making sure people understand that gas has to fit into our transition because there's different needs for it across the different states and territories. So what Victoria needs is going to be different to what the Northern Territory needs, to what Queensland and to what, of course, me or us in Western Australia might need for our industry. So, that's what the Future Gas Strategy is about. It’s about ensuring there's a greater understanding of where gas fits within the overall ambition to reach Net Zero emissions by 2050.