Russia Ukraine war, page-225249

Ukraine's solution to end the war:
-Russia has to vacate our territory so that we can re-establish our pre 2014 borders.

Russia's solution to end the war:
-Give Russia more Ukrainian territory, Ukraine to withdraw troops from battlefront
and give an undertaking not to join NATO (joining the EC is OK)

Thise positions means that the war will continue and the so called
Switzerland Peace Conference simply endorsed that.

Spruikers' posts on this thread don't mean diddly squat;
just an egotistical/big noting waste of time exercise.

IMO the question that has to be asked is:
-If the Ukraine gives an iron clad/enforceable commitment
not to join NATO and if Russian speakers (now Russian nationals)
get a fair go in Donbas as proposed in the Minsk Agreement, will
Russia withdraw its troops from the Ukraine ? (with the exception of
the Crimea which IMO Russia will never relinquish)

IMO if Trump is elected come November , then that's what
he will be considering as a sustainable solution.

NATO exists to prevent war; not to support/instigate war.