This is a very important message for those who do not know God., page-370

"And now you are claiming that I suggest that pre-existent isn't in scripture because I didn't mention a pre-existent Jesus in the Philippines."
"Are you now claiming that you didn't claim this because my suggestion would have been false?"

What I'm claiming is exactly what was not in any of my posts, as that is you didn't say or infer, that other scriptures don't support a pre-existing Jesus.


"That is progress because it is obvious that a pre-existent Jesus is in scripture."

No progress whatsoever, just your misunderstanding of what I have said, it would seem.

"He This; was with God in the beginning. "
The Greek definition here, only gives you that one option - This.

"Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. "
Isa 44:24 - Thus saith Yehowah, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I Yehowah that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Psa 33:6, 9 - By the word of Yehowah the heavens were made, And all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood firm.
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“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” John 8:58

Rev 13:9 - All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Hence, in the mind and plans of the God and Father, the Jesus to be was in effect, pre-slain in this plan = before Abraham was even thought of = Before Abraham I am = I was, according to the Inter.

At least you didn't link the "I am" to the OT I AM, LOL.
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The fact remains whereu, there is always Bible backed answers to all these claims, pre-existing, trinity God etc.

However and I know this from firsthand experience, to even get a peek over the wall so to speak, never mind actually going over it, it is extremely hard, due to the power of set seeds = HUGE and grossly under estimated it seems.