Biden/Trump only 2 years younger than Howard/Keating, page-4

Biden has about 200 or more serious gaffs most of them have been sweeped under the carpet or excused the only reason he is getting hammered is this was such a widely watch debate there is no hidding it or getting a good PR spin.

Biden himself hasnt done a bad job as the figurehead is the Democrat Party in the USA has become unelectable.

They have done what ALP have done here and veer to far from the Centre to the left to the point where minorities of all kinds have blurred the lines of what the party stands for thus killing it core voter basis