how SCOTUS has failed

Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

''The global view is that most populations couldn't give a toss - just look at the number of coal fired power stations being built in mainly Asian countries.''

there is probably a lot of truth in what you wrote

there is one thing that one instantly notices in many Asian cultures ---------- pragmatism. Adaptation to problems that are in front of one's nose

it is a wonderful human characteristic --------- however, it has a big downside, and that is that it is detrimental to longer term thinking

when the heat comes - they feel it then, when the floods come, they feel it then - when the ocean encroaches, they feel it then ---------- and they again, fall to pragmatism

it is more so in their nature or culture than looking far ahead.

Many nations do have more long term views - but, not, oddly enough in all areas.

I think that most nations, Asian or Western - in actual practice - don't really accept climate change -

they kind of do - they kind of can intellectualise it - but, it's almost impossible for humans to emotionally grasp the danger of climate change -

it's either invisible - or difficult to see, because we are so used to things like -'it's raining' - well - it's always rained
it's hot - well, in one's life in warm places - there's always been hot weather

it's a huge mental shift to grasp that today - it's hot - because of some planetary shift

it's even more difficult to grasp mmcc - where somehow, some people we call scientists tell us that something invisible 'up there' which we are making from doing things in chimneys ----------- is creating the whole thing - which means - it's hot today

those with a good imagination can sit and intellectualise it - but, it's very difficult to emotionalise it - to really get an understanding of it

take the example of western consumerism --------- so, women mainly, but women and men - we intellectually know that industrialisation is the cause of planetary damage and degradation - that's abundantly clear --------------- BUT - we still go to the shopping mall and buy carloads of unnecessary shit - and we buy bigger houses so we can put all that mass of shit somewhere -

we just do NOT back what we know - we just don't, we continue on with wilful irresponsibility

what will it take? ---------- well, I think there are two things - a massive death toll from some extreme extreme weather event - and something rapid and monstrous - like the AMOC stalling

something that gives Hollywood style immediacy to hugely damaging events

will either happen? ----- probably. When is the question. It's always been the question

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Originally posted by pintohoo: ↑

''The global view is that most populations couldn't give a toss - just look at the number of coal fired power stations being built in mainly Asian countries.''

there is probably a lot of truth in what you wrote

there is one thing that one instantly notices in many Asian cultures ---------- pragmatism. Adaptation to problems that are in front of one's nose

it is a wonderful human characteristic --------- however, it has a big downside, and that is that it is detrimental to longer term thinking

when the heat comes - they feel it then, when the floods come, they feel it then - when the ocean encroaches, they feel it then ---------- and they again, fall to pragmatism

it is more so in their nature or culture than looking far ahead.

Many nations do have more long term views - but, not, oddly enough in all areas.

I think that most nations, Asian or Western - in actual practice - don't really accept climate change -

they kind of do - they kind of can intellectualise it - but, it's almost impossible for humans to emotionally grasp the danger of climate change -

it's either invisible - or difficult to see, because we are so used to things like -'it's raining' - well - it's always rained
it's hot - well, in one's life in warm places - there's always been hot weather

it's a huge mental shift to grasp that today - it's hot - because of some planetary shift

it's even more difficult to grasp mmcc - where somehow, some people we call scientists tell us that something invisible 'up there' which we are making from doing things in chimneys ----------- is creating the whole thing - which means - it's hot today

those with a good imagination can sit and intellectualise it - but, it's very difficult to emotionalise it - to really get an understanding of it

take the example of western consumerism --------- so, women mainly, but women and men - we intellectually know that industrialisation is the cause of planetary damage and degradation - that's abundantly clear --------------- BUT - we still go to the shopping mall and buy carloads of unnecessary shit - and we buy bigger houses so we can put all that mass of shit somewhere -

we just do NOT back what we know - we just don't, we continue on with wilful irresponsibility

what will it take? ---------- well, I think there are two things - a massive death toll from some extreme extreme weather event - and something rapid and monstrous - like the AMOC stalling

something that gives Hollywood style immediacy to hugely damaging events

will either happen? ----- probably. When is the question. It's always been the question

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I think that most nations, Asian or Western - in actual practice - don't really accept climate change

In terms of pragmatism they prefer to feed and house their families TODAY rather than worry about what may happen in 2090 according to some self promoted hypocrite climate experts who rarely practice what they preach.

Thinking about the past is the main source of depression
Thinking about the future is the source of anxiety (most of the climate crazies)
Thinking about the present and living the present is the greatest source of happiness