Oh dear, the desperation is in full swing I see, so lets US let the Spirit of truth address this SAD desperation.
Psa 18:2
Yahweh is my rock, my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; my shield, and the horn of my salvation, my high tower.
That is smack on, for the OT times, as at that time there was No Jesus in anyway shape or form, other than a plan to be, through whom Yahweh would deliver people through.
Hence among other things -> Matt 28:18 - And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power (authority) is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
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John8:58
Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."
First up, the definition of the Greek word where I am is used is -> I am and I was = are you getting the picture, in NO WAY is Jesus associating his message with the I AM of the OT.
So, the question is, how was he before Abraham and the Bible make this LOUD and CLEAR.
And what does the Bibles snippets of truth show what this means.
Gen 3:15 - And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.” = before Abraham I am, I was.
Rev 13:8 - All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. = a plan to be = before Abraham I am, I was.
You Tonio, cannot refute this and maintain Bible truth.
Jesus simply gave up on their confusion and just walked off and left them floundering.
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I won't use your cherry picked false version of 1 Cor 2:4
and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.
Acts 2:36 - Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
The spiritual drink etc, is in regards to the messages, prophesies of the future Jesus.
And that CLEARLY followed them, long after they had passed away.
Yehowah did NOT follow them in the desert etc, he Led them, hmmmmmmmmmm, lights on Tonio.
When did he become the Christ, anointed one;
Luke 4:18 - The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed;
What's the timeline - "Me" = the Man Jesus, of the here and now of the times and not before.
When did Yehowah send him into the world = after his Baptism - ex John 17:18
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