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Originally posted by RM: ↑

Genesis 8
4 Then the ark rested in the seventh month, the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat. 5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month. In the tenth month, on the first day of the month, the tops of the mountains were seen.6 So it came to pass, at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made. 7 Then he sent out a raven, which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the earth. 8 He also sent out from himself a dove, to see if the waters had receded from the face of the ground. 9 But the dove found no resting place for the sole of her foot, and she returned into the ark to him, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth. So he put out his hand and took her, and drew her into the ark to himself. You can see that the account of the gradual receding of the flood waters and the ark coming to rest on the mountain ranges of Ararat yet the face of the whole earth was said to still be covered. The whole world in that regard was not the exposed high country and mountain tops.

God sends a prophet to a wicked world before he condemns them we see this pattern over and over again in the bible. Noah was one such prophet who preached righteousness to the wicked world he lived in so the flood did accomplish Gods will and that was to destroy the wicked system that thrived in Noah's day.

An interesting dialogue between God and Job is found in the Bible where God expresses his omnipotence and questions man on his ability.

38 Job
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:2 “Who is this who darkens counsel By words without knowledge?3 Now prepare yourself like a man;I will question you, and you shall answer Me.4 “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?We have further information regarding this creation of the world in Psalms again no so favourable to a global flood post Genesis 1.

Psalm 104
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.
6 You covered it with the watery depths as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains.
7 But at your rebuke the waters fled,at the sound of your thunder they took to flight;
8 they flowed over the mountains, they went down into the valleys,to the place you assigned for them.
9 You set a boundary they cannot cross;never again will they cover the earth.
The language used regarding the Genesis flood event read in its entirety does not hold to a Noachian global flood nor many explicit and implicit passages that militates against such a position.

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@RM The Bible is now how many hundred or thousands of years old - or rather the Old Testament etc. and all its offshoots?
I rate the 'stories' from the Bible as morality tales, which have been helpful in keeping certain tribes of people civilised, healthy, surviving - and often God smites their enemies - so not much talk of Love Thy Brother, when looking across the border! - Jesus was modern compared to what's in the Bible
Jesus Christ was so successful, or rather his teachings were, because there were so many disaffected, imposed upon, enslaved people in the ancient world, beginning with women and all the human spoils from the endless conquering wars the Romans conducted - so the preachings of Jesus found a willing audience. To the soldier, statesman, 'society' Roman it was a religion for slaves with a lowly morality, but because of the sheer numbers of disempowered, enslaved people, Christianity eventually found willing adherents. Kindness is also innate in human nature and found little expression in the codes of the ancient world; so there was a hunger for kindness - and it seems much like in today's world, when you look at the numbers of mental diseases - all cureable with patience, kindness and love, yet we seem to fall short in all three.

I feel we now need a different philosophy/religion - the old have outlived their usefulness - and Christianity has taken part in shaping our philosophies, our abilities for kindness etc. - but we have very different problems now. We need to re-discover our love for this earth and its creatures, we need to become simpler, more loving, less belligerent, less neurotic - an Christianity does not seem to fit the bill anymore.
We need to discover, if we are to be the true lords of this our world given to us by an ancient G.d - that we need to learn to caretake of it.

Are we doing this? I think not.

Humankind seems to need another spiritual growth spurt of developing a universal consciousness for all living things, above all, we need to learn to love and appreciate all of ourselves, all of mankind. Do we need another horrible war, to open our eyes to that simple solution?

But of course, you will keep on talking about events which happened long ago and are neither here nor there in the present, where we need people of goodwill and strong character to cure all of us of the lowly vices mankind is still saddled with, despite thunderous pronouncements by Gods in Flaming bushes and white-bearded impotent Prophets, all gone to dust now.
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