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You can't use the Greek in the NT to replace the translated English words to accommodate your Unitarian view because by doing so you are corrupting the standard English Bibles.
DRRRRRRR, the English Bibles have come FROM Da Greek, where have you been, wakey, wakey ???????????
Standard Bible, YOOU have well and truly been SHOWN from John himself, that what you call standard, are the tradition of men after Him.
These said scholars, draw substantially from the Inters DRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
There is NO question about it, there ARE errors in the standard Bibles, lights on and get home, and do your own checking.
The word order in John 1:1c is a LIE and is 1:14 And the Word Man became and NOT and the Word became Man = another fairy story.
John is saying zero here about Jesus becoming flesh, Luke does this Loud and Clear, the prophesies is what become flesh, BECAUSE the Bible shows us this, in plain sight.
Goodness me, no wonder Rev 19:12, says no one knows the name, as You clearly do Not.
We have to draw upon the Greek, to see how THEY define "their" words -> GOT It, and NOT how creators tell them what "their" words mean.
If YOOOU, are serious about truth, which I very much doubt, the use of the Greek word for (with) in John 1:1, 2 and in 1 John 1:2 is supposedly used around 700 times.
Only 43 of these are translated as "with", 3 of those are as per above here.
So YOOU, find these other 40, copy and paste onto HERE and I'll show YOOOOU, WHY there is NO grounds to use the word "with" in ANY of them.
They will in fact speak for themselves, well,......for those of God that is.
Toward can also be "unto" .....and the Word was unto the Theon AND Ttheos (same one) was the Word = something is yet to come about and Lo - Behold we SEE that has been expressed forth in 1:3 by the Father alone and by himself Isa 44:24.
Why = through, on account of, by reason of, for the sake of, the one to be born from Mary.
1:3 ALL THINGS made -> Including Word Man Jesus, made by the word that come down.
Goodness Me, it's in our faces, LOUD and CLEAR.
SNAP OUT OF IT
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