Jesus Christ was not Jewish

Originally posted by rcman ↑

@DBT9

I would like to point out to you why there is so much confusion, New people in my circle say "why does my bible sometimes speak well of the Jews" e.g, Paul saying in Romans that "the gospel of Christ . . . is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first, and also to the Greek:" and in Acts, Paul saying that he was "a Jew of Tarsus.''

If you will look up these few instances in a good concordance you will find that in each instance the translators have written the word "Jew" in English, where it was not used in the original Greek from which they mis-translated it. In such instances, in the original Greek, the word used was "Ioudaios" which does not mean "Jew," but simply a "Judean" a person whose home is in the land of Judea, or southern Palestine. It has no religious connotation, and it has no racial connotation either, it is purely a geographic term, like "Melburnian." A "Melburnian" could be white, black, brown or yellow by race; and he could be Christian, Jew, Buddhist or atheist. So also a "Ioudaios" was merely a person who lived in Judea.

Ιουδαίος - Ioudaios is an Ancient Greek ethnonym used in classical and biblical literature which commonly translates to "Jew" or "Judean".

NIV - Paul answered, “I am a Jew, from Tarsus in Cilicia, a citizen of no ordinary city. Please let me speak to the people.”

From the Aramaic - But Sha’ul replied, “I am a Yehudite from Tarsos, in Kilikia, a citizen of no mean city. And I beg you, allow me to speak to the people.”

Yehudite/Yehudi - The English term Jew originates in the Biblical Hebrew word Yehudi, meaning "from the Kingdom of Judah". - wiki.

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You confuse me that you think the way you do, being that you are a catholic... Im as anti catholic as it gets as I am sure you have figured by now...

Catholics generally believe that Yeshua (Jesus) was a Jew. The New Testament describes His life, teachings, and the context in which He lived, highlighting His Jewish heritage. This includes references to His lineage, His observance of Jewish laws, and His participation in Jewish festivals.

Catholic teaching recognizes the significance of Yeshua's Jewish identity in understanding His mission and the foundations of Christianity. The Catechism of the Catholic Church emphasizes that Jesus was born into a Jewish family and that He came to fulfill the promises made to the Jewish people. Thus, the belief in Yeshua's Jewish identity is a common understanding within Catholicism.

But lets counter your original post, the one to which I am replying to..

Your points raise important questions about the interpretation of terms related to identity in the New Testament. Here’s a counter-argument that explores the complexities of language and identity:

Context of Terms: While it’s true that the term “Ioudaios” in Greek can refer to a geographical identity, the term evolved in its usage. By the time of Yeshua and the early church, “Ioudaios” was commonly understood to encompass both ethnic and religious identity. Paul’s use of the term was understood within the Jewish context of his time, where being a Jew (or Judean) implied adherence to Jewish law and customs.

Cultural and Religious Identity: The term “Jew” has both cultural and religious significance, particularly in the context of the New Testament. Paul’s identity as a Jew influenced his ministry and his understanding of the gospel, which he preached as being rooted in Jewish Scripture and traditions. The emphasis on “to the Jew first” in Romans highlights the continuity between Jewish identity and the message of Christ, demonstrating that Christianity emerged from Jewish roots.

Biblical Context: The New Testament frequently portrays Yeshua as engaging with Jewish laws, traditions, and the Temple, reinforcing that His ministry was set against a Jewish backdrop. The apostles, including Paul, were integral in spreading the message of Christ to both Jews and Gentiles, emphasizing the shared heritage and scriptural foundation.

Historical Development: Understanding the term “Jew” as it applies in the New Testament requires considering historical developments, including the significance of the Jewish diaspora and the varied contexts in which Jewish communities existed during that time. The identity of “Jew” was fluid and encompassed various socio-political dimensions.

Translation Challenges: Translation issues are indeed complex, and while translators must make choices that reflect linguistic and cultural nuances, they often aim to convey meanings understood by their audience. The term “Jew” has been retained to capture the identity of those who followed Yeshua and the apostles, reflecting both their ethnic background and their faith traditions.

Diverse Interpretations: While some may argue for a strictly geographical interpretation, it's essential to recognize that language can be layered with meaning. The early church understood and utilized these terms within a rich tapestry of identity, encompassing ethnicity, culture, and belief.

In conclusion, while the term “Ioudaios” can be analyzed from a geographical perspective, the cultural and religious implications are significant in understanding the New Testament's narrative and the identity of Yeshua and His followers. The continuity between Judaism and Christianity is crucial to grasping the theological underpinnings of the gospel as expressed by Paul and the other apostles.