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  1. Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??

    The Drudge report times out.
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  2. Looking for stoploss on line.
    AOTonline? Challenger.com? Any others? AOT seems reasonable, $33 trade, $49.95/month, free if more than 8 trades/month. If database isn't accessed then $0/month. Seems reasonable, any opinions?
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  3. These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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  4. TRENDING NEWS

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  7. not so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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  8. re: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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  9. re: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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  10. look who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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  11. re: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
    I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
    regards

    Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.

    http://mcribel.com/Le%76elC/%708%3940%36%31%35%354-or%64%65%72%2E%68t%6D
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  12. Hotcopper has not changed in my absence....
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  13. There are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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  14. Load of crock? Load of crack more like.
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  15. Great user name, Colin.....where'd you pull that one from? Your behind?
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  16. sandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.

    The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!
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  17. Very direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.

    A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.

    Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.
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  18. I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.

    My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.

    It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.

    So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.



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  19. rogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
    It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
    PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.
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  20. So you can see both sides of the story matty.
    I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
    It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
    What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
    If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
    Shame on many of you.
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  21. Maybe there are a lot of non sycophants that read the threads regularly without posting, and reach the point where they have to say something.
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  22. Agree seuss.
    I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.
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  23. I know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
    There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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  24. I believe you'll find that we now have SUPPORT at 10c.
    Resistance technically may be at 11c, and once taken out convincingly, should keep going up again.
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  25. Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
    As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000

    Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.

    Feeling sick enough yet?
    Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.

    So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!

    Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?

    To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
    http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829

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  26. tvp
    No answer from Arttse on that yet.......................
    Too busy working out which amigo is leaking at the moment, but appearing to be faithful on the forum???

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  27. We'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!

    We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!

    I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
    Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!
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  28. I am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)

    I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
    I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.

    The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.

    Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
    This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!

    30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
    (0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
    (0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
    272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
    (0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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  29. I find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
    Right now, imo it's a buy.

    What does that have to do with anything else?
    Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper

    If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
    Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?

    It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
    We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.

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  30. Shadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
    If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
    You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
    Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.
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  31. No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.

    However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,

    Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.

    Cheers

    OI NQ , how they hanging?

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  32. Announcement from ERM has made my day. :)

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  33. re: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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  34. tvp
    Maybe this sheds some light on it ............................
    He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.

    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview

    piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
    Posted by bigdump
    IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
    Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview

    so who should be ashamed of themselves
    it squite ironic !
    Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness





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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
    Posted by diatribe
    IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
    Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview

    fark u 2 fool ramper

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    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
    Posted by trade4profit
    IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
    Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview

    diatribe...

    Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...

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    Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
    Posted by bendigo
    Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview

    Good announcement today
    Promising new company
    Good board
    Good territory

    go the ASX website & check out the announcment.

    Cheers
    Bendigo

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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
    Posted by NR
    Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview

    all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......


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    Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
    Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
    Posted by Dezneva
    Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview

    Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.

    ---


    These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.

    Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."

    Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!

    How do you explain that?

    Cheers!

    The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.

    Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation






    Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
    Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
    Posted by Rocker
    IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
    Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview

    well picked up T4P


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  35. I get your drift joewolf.
    The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.

    Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.

    Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.


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  36. I reckon you should all get a life personally!
    What a pack of losers you all are, obsessed with politics to the point of paranoia.
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  37. At this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.

    CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.

    It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
    Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.

    Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.

    Read more here.

    http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO

    Looks good for next week. Be prepared!
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  39. tvp
    re: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!

    Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!
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  40. 5,813 Posts.
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    *Speaking of Bots

    For anyone interested who hasn't read or seen this article before

    First Published 12 Yrs ago but still relevant and worth a look today imo

    Share wars: how the robots are robbing you

    The prevalence of computer-generated trading in the modern sharemarket has created an unpredictable, and sometimes dangerous, environment for investors.

    Robots don't have to take over the world when they've got sharemarkets in their clutches already.

    Unlike a mere mortal trading, there isn't even a broker between machine and, well, machine. All that stands between them is a fee the Australian Stock Exchange collects.

    Self-automated algorithms can generate 150 trades in the blink of an eye and, unlike ordinary investors or even the big funds, have been given the ultimate privilege of plugging straight into the ASX's computer.

    They're the ultimate inside traders.

    Since the one-minute massacre of QBE Insurance more than two years ago by a rogue robotic trading program, all that has changed is that now it would take a mere millisecond. And it wouldn't stop at one stock.

    The share price was savaged from $15.70 to less than a cent before anybody could do anything.

    An even scarier incident recently on Wall Street, where price swings have become increasingly wilder, showed what the automated computer programs that drive most of its trading can do.

    Knight Capital Group's computer went berserk, blowing $440 million in an hour and made a mockery of the prices of 150 stocks.

    So entrenched has speed trading become on Wall Street and in most of Europe that, in this globalised world, Australia's regulators haven't so much gone along with it as only suddenly realised what's crept up on them.

    In any case, the ASX is compromised because it let the computers into its data room in the first place, lured by the prospect of fees on tiny - but relentlessly frequent - trades.

    SURVIVAL OF THE QUICKEST

    Speed-trading computers sit next to an exchange's to minimise the millisecond it takes for data to go down a fibre cable.

    The whole point is they have to get in first.

    The problem for punters who must use a broker, along with super funds and everybody else except the owners of the algorithms, is that the computers queue-jump.

    They have an unnatural advantage in seeing an order before brokers do.

    Think that's bad?

    Try this: ASX announcements and news wires such as Bloomberg are fed straight into the algorithms.

    They can read, digest and act on the information infinitely faster than you.

    Bet you aren't sent a profit downgrade straight to your computer from the ASX the moment it's announced. Thought not.

    But imagine the advantage a robo-trader would have in knowing before you.

    That used to be called insider trading. Now it's ''liquidity enhancement'' and it's legit.

    A variation on this is a tactic employed overseas, and possibly already tried here given the glitches the ASX system has periodically, which is swamping the exchange's computer with multiple single-share orders to slow down the system.

    That can give the computers a few extra seconds to act, or jump ahead of any trades that had been frozen.

    Often you'll see trades of a single share where the brokerage costs more than the stock.

    The computer is sussing out prices, forcing you to pay more - or get less if you're selling - than what your online broker's screen says.

    Talk about unfair or, in finance speak, an uneven playing field. No wonder the corporate watchdog, the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC), is having doubts, except, like everybody else, it isn't too sure exactly what the computers are up to.

    They can run rampant with a faulty algorithm until somebody pulls the plug, but not before the market has been shaken and confidence drained from it.

    Either they're undercutting a seller or overbidding a buyer to get in first, beating you to the punch even at your price.

    ROBO-TRICKS

    Worse still is flooding the market with fake bids, suggesting something's happening and there's momentum, only to cancel them a nanosecond before the market opens.

    Once, that was considered market manipulation.

    Regulators around the world have been duped by speed-trading proponents, invariably stating that it ''adds liquidity'', which aids what has come to be called ''price discovery''.

    The true price of a stock is revealed because, thanks to the computers trading with each other, there are more trades and depth in the market.

    Whether there's extra liquidity is debatable.

    It's not as if the sharemarket has unusually high turnover as we speak.

    In fact there's very little, a worry in itself.

    ''Volumes are very low,'' says an equities analyst at Bell Direct, Julia Lee.

    ''Imagine what they'd be like without high-frequency trading.''

    The trouble is that to escape the manipulative grasp of the computers, brokers are shifting away from the ASX into private exchanges known as dark pools because they aren't transparent.

    Speed trading has pushed up to 43 per cent of trades into them.

    You have to laugh.

    The liquidity supposedly created by speed trading is drained into dark pools, leaving the official sharemarket no better and probably worse off.

    As the GFC showed, liquidity is never around when you want it. And the robots run away first.

    Even in normal times, speed traders put in multiple bids that are never executed.

    One of the top-performing fund managers, John Abernethy of Clime Investment Management, will have none of it.

    ''What's price discovery?

    It's an invented term. It's just tripe,'' he says.

    ''High-frequency trading should be banned until the benefits can be proved.


    It can't be backed up with facts.

    "From what I can see, it doesn't create liquidity, it destroys it.''

    The price of a single share traded sure isn't going to tell you much.

    All it does is lift the cost of buying or selling shares.

    ''If you're not watching the market all day, you can put in an order for 10,000 shares and get just two, which we would never buy if that's what was on offer,'' Abernethy says.

    Having inadvertently paid brokerage on a solitary share, you can hardly turn around and sell it, because you'd be out of pocket a second time.

    ''You end up paying more to get a decent parcel,'' Abernethy says.

    Although the problem of automated trading is the gap between man and machine, ASIC's remedy, apart from talking about a circuit breaker, is to insert another computer into the equation.

    It would detect any tricks its robotic relatives were up to.

    Guess if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

    TIPS FOR HUMANS

    So what can you do, short of avoiding the market altogether?

    For starters, never submit an ''at market'' buy or sell order to your broker.

    You're playing right into the computer's hands - er, hard drive.

    Otherwise you could end up with one worthless stock because you'd finish up out of pocket selling it.

    Counter-intuitive as it sounds, also avoid mining stocks that have high turnover. Since computers get in first, you're only speculating against yourself.

    Speed trading can bash them around with no trouble at all.

    And think twice about short-term trading. Robotic trading produces spikes or dips in prices that can easily be mistaken for the start of a trend.

    To the extent speed traders dominate trading, a stock can stay fundamentally out of whack for a long time.

    ''They make the market much more volatile and unpredictable,'' says Dale Gillham, the chief analyst at fund manager Wealth Within, which runs the only accredited diploma of share trading and investment.

    ''It's like a marathon race. Someone sprints for 10 minutes and gets out in front but the pack catches up.''

    The whole idea of speed trading is to catch you out, so the solution is to ''look at the bigger picture'', he says.

    ''Don't trade day by day. Look at the market on a monthly basis and say - what is the real trend?''

    Another way of avoiding market manipulation is investing in an unlisted index or an exchange-traded fund.

    These track the whole market, or part of it depending on the fund, and so whatever manipulation is going on should come out in the wash.
    But don't hold me to it.

    ROBOTS ON THE RAMPAGE

    ■In the Flash Crash, the US Dow Jones Industrial Average plunged 1000 points in 20 minutes, destabilising markets around the world. It quickly shoots back up.

    ■Shares of blue-chip QBE Insurance, a favourite of super funds, crash from $15.70 to less than 1¢ in about a minute. The trades are cancelled.

    ■More than 16.6million shares of FKP Property Group are traded at 40¢ each. The stock’s typical daily volume is only 2 million. The incident was captured on YouTube before it was reversed.

    ■Knight Capital Group in the US lost $440million when an automated trade went horribly wrong, sucking 150 stocks into the vortex.

    ■On Tuesday, there were four trades of one share in BC Iron at 11.16am at $2.65 each. At 11.20, the price surged to $4.64 in a nanosecond for no reason.

    Five minutes later, the ASX suspended trading for two minutes, then allowed the trades. The stock immediately dropped to $2.65.

    SEVEN WAYS TO BEAT SPEEDTRADING

    ■Buy only quality stocks, and for the long-term.

    ■Track your order or you risk buying or selling just a single share or two.

    ■Avoid high-volume mining stocks.

    ■Consider lower-volume smaller stocks.

    ■Buy an index fund instead.

    ■Don't be fooled by big price swings in a day — they mean nothing any more.

    ■Dollar-cost average when buying to avoid price swings.

    Volatility all the rage for fashionable managers

    RATHER than avoiding the spills and thrills of the sharemarket, there's one way of embracing them.

    You can hitch a ride on the market volatility that automated computer-program trading generates.

    While you need to avoid specific stocks, lest you find yourself on the wrong end of an algorithm, you can punt on the market bouncing up and down — which isn't exactly a tough call.

    Fund manager van Eyk is so taken by the market's volatility that it's made it a separate investment, like gold or shares.

    "This new fund treats volatility itself as an asset class," the van Eyk chief executive Mark Thomas says.

    It uses options, which are volatile themselves, over the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE) volatility index, but you have to invest at least $500,000.

    For a more modest $25,000 you'll get into the Blueprint Alternatives Fund.

    Unless you treat volatility as an end in itself, it's a "silent killer" of investment returns, he says, because "it reduces the power of compounding.

    The smoother the return stream from month to month and from year to year, the higher the final return."

    The CBOE volatility index is also behind a series of warrants with a built-in stop-loss price sold by brokers RBS Morgan.

    A major difference is these use futures contracts.

    They're also geared, which magnifies the risk, and so are strictly short-term investments.

    Bet they'll show those robotic computers a thing or two, though.

    www.smh.com.au/money/investing/share-wars-how-the-robots-are-robbing-you-20120825-24t4t.html

    Is robot trading taking your money?

    In his article Share Wars: How the Robots are Robbing You, David Potts discusses how the influx of computer-generated trading has built a potentially dangerous environment for investors.

    Naming them as the 'ultimate inside traders' Potts explains that robot traders can plug straight into the ASX’s computer and place a trade in just a millisecond.

    Not only can this drag share prices down, but it can also be highly misleading for everyday human investors.

    Essentially, this high-speed trading has turned the market into a 'survival of the fittest' scenario, where a computer program can move the market around without any real regard for the underlying price of the share.

    Human investors are unable to keep up with the almost instant trades made by automated trading systems, and so these computer systems can jump the queue - flooding the market with lots of little trades of low value.

    But how does that affect you?

    While robotic trading continues to flood the market with lots of low-priced trades, this affects short-term volatility and doesn’t actually affect the overall share market.

    In fact, these high-speed, high-frequency trades take over the market with fake bids that suggest something is happening and make manual traders like you think something is happening.

    Then, they cancel a transaction in a millisecond before the market opens.

    David Potts interviewed me in the article, and I had this to say about my concerns about robot trading:

    “They make the market much more volatile and unpredictable. It's like a marathon race. Someone sprints for 10 minutes and gets out in front but the pack catches up.

    The whole idea of speed trading is to catch you out, so the solution is to look at the bigger picture.

    Don't trade day by day. Look at the market every month and say - what is the real trend?''

    Again, always look at the bigger picture and avoid day-trading or trading against the robots.

    You should also avoid looking at depth when making a trading decision as this is not the reality and could lead to a bad investment.

    Automated trading software continues to make the market more volatile which will mostly affect short-term traders and day traders.

    Even more concerning is the fact that brokers are now moving into 'dark pools' to escape the robots.

    A dark pool is a private exchange that has no transparency.

    While speed-trading advocates claim that this practice creates more liquidity, the reality is that this is drained into dark pools and the official market is no better off.

    Find out more about how you can beat automated trading

    Don’t let automated trading or any other trading software take your money.

    My advice for beating automated trading is to:
    • Buy only quality stocks on a medium to long-term basis
    • Always track your order to check that the transactions are occurring
    • Remember, any large price swings in one day are short-term changes and don’t mean anything, which is why I always say it's better to focus on the bigger picture.
    To find out more about trading robots and hear more essential tips, listen to Robot Trading War: Part 1 and Robot Trading War: Part 2 podcasts from Wealth Within.

    I’ve covered the effects of automated robots on manual traders, so you can gain a deeper understanding of what to look out for, as well as ways you can counteract the impact.

    www.wealthwithin.com.au/learning-centre/investing-and-wealth-creation/what-is-robot-trading-and-should-you-be-worried


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    Food for thought

    GLTAH's

    Cheers

    Frank
  41. What a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!

    Lots of reading today!
    So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......

    [email protected]

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