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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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Lithium market could see modest recovery in 2025
After years of torrid growth, 2024 was a lackluster year for the global electric vehicle industry and, consequently, for global lithium demand.
While the EV market in Asia Pacific performed well, sales growth in the Americas slowed substantially and in Europe shifted into reverse, translating into a substantial slowdown in lithium demand growth.
At the same time, the flood of new supply in recent years, which producers in Australia and elsewhere are only now fully coming to grips with, saw lithium prices languish at levels roughly 80% below their peak.
At Adamas Intelligence, a Toronto-based battery metal and EV consultancy, we expect Asia Pacific, led by China where EVs now represent more than half of all vehicles sales, to continue to drive the global EV market in 2025 and beyond.
We’re also optimistic about prospects for a reacceleration of EV sales in the Americas and Europe, although the introduction of trade restrictions by the EU on made-in-China cars and the incoming Trump administration’s plans for broad trade tariffs and a walk-back on climate goals are wildcards.
With battery material costs lower across the board, greater affordability should also provide support for the market next year.
In 2025, Tesla aims to increase EV production by 500,000 units for the year with the release of the much-anticipated low-cost passenger car to be followed later by its much-touted robotaxi.
In Europe, automakers are set to face stricter CO2 standards and targets from next year, the first incremental change since 2021, spurring the expansion of more affordable mass market EV offerings on the continent.
The Chinese EV market will remain the no 1 driver of lithium demand and should receive a boost in 2025 not only through Beijing’s broader economic stimulus program, but ongoing incentives for Chinese buyers to switch from gasoline-powered cars.
EVs, PHEVs and energy storage
Interestingly, in China the rising popularity of extended range plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) has offered some salvation for lithium demand in the past year owing to the especially large battery packs these vehicles possess.
On the battery chemistry front, nickel- and cobalt-free lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) batteries will continue to capture market share from their nickel-cobalt-manganese (NCM) counterparts, in turn favouring lithium carbonate over lithium hydroxide, although the story differs from region to region.
Outside the EV market, we expect global lithium demand for energy storage systems to continue to surge next year, representing 13% of aggregate lithium demand, growing at 45% year-on-year.
Overall, we expect global lithium demand to increase 26% to 1.46 million tonnes in 2025 on a lithium carbonate equivalent (LCE) basis, up from an estimated 1.15 million tonnes this year.
Supply cuts: between rock and a hard place
Throughout this year, confusion as to who exactly represented the marginal supplier appears to have caused boardrooms to focus on rosy longer-term demand predictions leading to a deepening supply glut.
Despite subdued prices, China’s strategic lepidolite and Zimbabwean spodumene supply continued to come online while Australian spodumene producers adjusted production only slightly, focusing instead on cost efficiencies.
The delayed reaction from higher-cost hard rock miners meant only modest supply cuts have materialized to date, although that started to change in late 2024 as operations continued to lose money.
CATL’s curtailment of operations at its Jianxiawo mine has effectively debunked the loss leader narrative that held a large proportion of these high-cost Chinese lepidolite units would feed the market indefinitely.
From its peak in June 2024, China’s lepidolite production has halved to a level more in step with fundamentals.
As such, we expect continued downward pressure on lepidolite production next year.
Rushed African supply
In Africa, projects that were rushed to market could fade away as prices stay low.
Born out of the last peak price cycle, Chinese-controlled Zimbabwean mineral concentrate sources have stabilized, though there are signs of distress.
Their speed to market strategy hurt plant efficiencies, delivered low product grades, and owing to poor infrastructure, transport costs are substantial.
Consequently, high-cost petalite units are being shuttered (for example Sinomine’s Bikita mine) while the more remote operations face challenging ramp-up economics including Yahua’s newly constructed Kamativi mine and several Nigerian mines which may not deliver commercial volumes until prices recover.
Harsh realities for Aussie miners
In Australia, only one lithium mine — Greenbushes — is currently cash flow positive.
Reflecting this reality, Mineral Resources put its Bald Hill operation into care and maintenance in November, following Pilbara Minerals’ earlier decision to suspend its Ngungaju plant.
In the interest of capital preservation, the industry is delaying development of the next generation of supply like Arcadium’s Fenix 1B and Galaxy projects.
As in times past, we expect this to exacerbate volatility when supply deficits emerge.
In future, with increased participation of large-cap resource companies, such as Rio Tinto or ExxonMobil, we may see more orderly transitions between cycles.
Big year for South America, DLE
Brine-sourced lithium units, comfortably cash flow positive at these prices, will continue to grow in line with demand in 2025, with expansions expected in Chile, together with a host of Argentinian and Chinese projects entering production.
Direct lithium extraction technology (DLE) promises greater recoveries and significantly shortened production time for brines. Emerging DLE developers will keenly follow Eramet’s ramp-up of its Centenario in Argentina, particularly considering Tsingshan’s sudden departure from the project in October.
Owing to evaporative brine projects limited scalability and the industry’s blistering rate of growth over the last decade, DLE will need to prove commercially viable for brines to maintain its market share.
Overall, we expect global lithium supply to increase 16% to 1.58 million tonnes LCE in 2025, up from an estimated 1.36 million tonnes this year.
Modest price recovery in offing
China’s lithium chemical inventories have effectively doubled throughout 2024.
This build-up is most pronounced in lithium hydroxide, as evidenced by the pronounced pressure seen in lithium hydroxide and spodumene concentrate markets.
An expected 115,000 tonne LCE surplus next year should put the lid on any near-term price spikes.
Although due to lag effects of mined material moving through a growing supply chain, the effective inventory build at the margin is much lower.
Our models point to days of inventory (inventory normalized by consumption) declining slightly through next year’s first half.
This is conditional on a continued reduction in high-cost lepidolite and petalite mineral concentrate production.
If that happens, the present spot price (US$10-11/kg VAT inclusive lithium carbonate) should see a modest recovery.
This view is perhaps shared by Ganfeng Lithium which recently locked C$180 million of its Pilbara Minerals equity within a collar option, a near-term price-neutral derivative trade, signalling it doesn’t expect further deterioration.
Production increases
The largest individual contributors to supply next year will be Liontown Resources’ Kathleen Valley mine in Western Australia and Ganfeng’s Goulamina mine in Mali, while incumbent Tier 1 producers (Talison’s Greenbushes and SQM’s Atacama) are expanding at meaningful volumes.
Though not our base case expectation, should conditions remain subdued, a major Australian spodumene operation could go into care and maintenance in 2025.
By our numbers, Mineral Resources’ Wodgina mine could be the first to go, balancing the market by 55,000 tonnes LCE, although management appear keen to avoid this given the opportunity cost incurred exercising this option during the last cycle.
Liontown’s Kathleen Valley will undoubtedly face pressure during ramp up and is at a real risk of faltering if prices remained depressed beyond 2025.
That said, with a revitalized mine plan, a fresh capital structure, deep pocketed stakeholder support and potential state tax holidays, Kathleen Valley should emerge from the market slump.
Swing supply to dampen any rally
We also note a generous proportion of swing capacity has or will be sidelined, theoretically capping any price rallies.
Idled capacity in Australia includes Finniss, Mt. Cattlin, Ngungaju, Bald Hill and Wodgina Train 3.
In China there is vast lepidolite capacity, while Zimbabwe offers capacity at Sabi Star, Bikita and Arcadia.
As we have observed in past cycles, restart economics typically require a sustained period of supportive prices.
In the current market, this is realistically above $15-20/kg ($15,000 to $20,000 per tonne) lithium carbonate.
In our view, by the time prices are consistently at these levels, sufficient structural deficits will have emerged, effectively nullifying the price dampening effects of restarts.
In summary, we see the lithium market in 2025 continuing to adjust supply through cuts, delays to project development, stockpiling and other measures, while strong demand brings modest price relief.
mining.com
Ganfeng begins production at Goulamina lithium mine in Mali
China’s Ganfeng Lithium said it has commenced production from the first phase of its Goulamina spodumene project in Mali.
Goulamina represents one of the largest lithium mines in Africa. Ganfeng — China’s largest lithium producer — acquired Australia’s Leo Lithium’s 40% stake in the project for $342.7 million in May.
mining.com
Food for thought
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by diatribe
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piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by bigdump
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so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Posted by diatribe
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fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
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Posted by trade4profit
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diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
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Posted by bendigo
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Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
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Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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