Another shout of praise goes up to Jehovah!, page-3474

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    Ppm,you just ignored what the bible said that Gods people will have the spirit of prophecy,and be a commandment keeping people.

    So it cant be Rcc,because they teach neither and have changed both.

    Historical fact,which they admit too openly.

    The remnant,mentioned in this verse,are the remnant of Isreal where Gods church started not Rome.


    Ill keep it even more simple Ppm,so we both understand the bible interprets itself,and it is not dependent on church fathers from the Rcc to say how its to be interpreted, what you just wrote was what you have been taught.


    I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.
    Jeremiah 6.2

    The woman is Isreal
    The remnant obviously are those that are the same as the original(same beliefs).

    "In Revelation 12:17, the woman is described as the one who gave birth to the male child who is to rule all the nations. This imagery symbolizes the Church as the mother of all believers, giving birth to Christ who rules over all, the Church, and the People of God, who brings forth Christ and is persecuted by the forces of evil but ultimately protected by God."

    Christianity came out of Judaism,not catholocism.
    When Jesus was born,Herod was the one who ordered the first born to be killed,this is the same power that the Rcc came out of pagan Rome,the Rcc didnt even exist at this time,so you applying this to your denomination is misleading sorry!
    "Going a bit further The Church Fathers interpret the woman in Revelation 12 as symbolizing both the Church and the Blessed Virgin Mary. As the Church is the body of Christ, and she's the mother of Christ, they saw her as the new Eve, cooperating with Christ in the work of redemption whereas the First Eve didn't cooperate with God and being the mother of the fall of humanity"

    TThis certainly is not what the bible or history teaches the Rcc did not even exist at the birth of Christ.
    Again,this is yourself just parroting what the Rcc teach which has no foundation in the bible nor history for what you just said.

    "Revelation 19.10"And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, 'You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.'"
    This verse serves as a reminder of the proper object of worship in Christianity and underscores the importance of the message and work of Jesus Christ"

    Which the Rcc contradicts

    1 it worship a God that is unscriptural and contrary to the Ot God of the Woman Isreal,whom obviously the remnant also worship as God

    22It changed the law and the testimony,which it also admits too,in fact,it goes as far as saying,if you do what Rome has told you,you do so obeying its ecclesiastical authority,as this is not explicitly laid out in scripture.
    Not my words Ppm,dont shoot the messenger.

    3 It teaches that the Rcc is Gods representative on the earth,also contrary to the foundation that Christ himself laid out in matthew 16.16

    Ppm,i have to reinterate,this is not to be taken personally against you,as you constantly take it as an attack on you personally,it is not.

    I dont know you from a bar of soap,but the point is,you preach beliefs that have zero basis in the scripture and your basis is the church and tradition,this is what is being challenged,your beloved churches authority,not you personally.

    Lets make it clear i wish no one on this forum any ill will,what they believe is their peronal choice,not mine,but it has the right to be challenged.

    This the context of the discussion,you yourself in a post the other day even admitted the Rcc pope etc is the deep state,from which i agree with you on,these words came from your own writing,this is exactly what the bible teaches,and you have dissagreed with me on this point for yrs and now you are saying it yourself.
 
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