No have to be $8 plus for me to go e/w usually. My strike rate is about 40%. The prices the corporates put up are way off the mark they have the fav far too short. The one at Horsham race 9 is a good chance comes from a good litter which includes Pretty Pippa a very smart bitch I'm very confident that Mondolin Wind can win once again fav too short yes can win but is a $1.90 pop Mandolin should be $4 tops and u can get $8 plus .....get on. Trainer very good smart man Pete.