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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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Who Controls Rare Earth Minerals Can Control the World
U.S. attempts to challenge China's dominance over rare earth elements explain President Trump’s interest in Ukraine and Greenland
Robert Fig
— May 23, 2025
President Donald Trump’s ‘rare earths deal’ with Ukrainian President Volodmyr Zelensky officially comes into force on Friday May 23rd. While much has been said about what this deal might mean for the prospects of peace between Ukraine and Russia, there has been far less discussion about how the struggle to control rare earth elements (REEs) fits into the wider geopolitical contest involving China and the West.
China’s overwhelming dominance of the market of rare earth elements, which are vital in modern military as well as civilian technology, goes a long way toward explaining U.S. President Trump’s interest in Ukraine and Greenland—both REE-rich areas of the world. The control over REEs represents a critical battle to shape the new world order. The reordering of defense spending prompted by U.S. tariffs and its push for increased military contributions from NATO members have also sparked renewed interest in the UK and EU in reducing their dependence on Chinese resources.
For years, there has been a lacklustre attempt by developed countries to find an alternative to China’s dominance in the production of rare earth elements. Globalisation and supposed free trade, along with falling prices and with the exorbitant cost of refining material, have held back these countries’ attempts to pursue their own alternate supplies.
Rare earth elements are a group of 17 metallic elements, commonly added in small quantities to iron and boron to improve their physical and chemical qualities substantially. These metals are widely used in the development of modern technology and global strategic demand has been increasing fast.
These REEs are divided into ‘heavy,’ ‘medium,’ and ‘light’ rare earths. China has concentrated on restricting exports in ‘heavy’ and ‘medium’ sectors, which are vital for military applications such as F-35 fighter jets, nuclear submarines, destroyers, Tomahawk missiles, advanced radar, military drones, sophisticated smart bombs and hybrid and electric vehicles and mobile phones, which all rely on high-performance magnets which can withstand high temperatures. China dominates the market of ‘heavies’ by producing 99% of these REEs, with a tiny balance coming from Vietnam.
These magnets are also vital for the electric vehicle industry and the production of wind turbines. Given the ‘just in time’ procurement supply chain programmes of most automotive plants, the supply of REEs and magnets can potentially run out relatively quickly, adding significantly to the cost of production of hybrid and electric vehicles.
‘Light’ rare earth elements, such as neodymium and praseodymium, which are used in the production of magnets, have experienced supply disruption tactics such as trade export bans . Although they have not been directly targeted by tariffs, these actions have contributed to increased price opacity. Beijing has also chosen to impose stricter export controls to ban the re-export of these materials to the U.S.
Rare earth mining brings with it significant environmental impacts, including the generation of radioactive waste production and the release of major contaminants. These environmental concerns have been a key factor contributing to the substantial decline in production in the U.S. and within NATO member states. China has demonstrated no such environmental concerns, with continued leaching of these elements into groundwater and the accumulation of environmentally hazardous surface slag.
Today, China mimics OPEC’s control of oil in its commodity dominance over REEs, mining 70% of rare earth concentrates, processing 87%, and refining over 91% of these metals, with almost no production occurring elsewhere. Although prices are primarily determined by supply and demand, they remain highly susceptible to volatility driven by heightened geopolitical risks, rendering the market a largely one-sided bet. Both Trump and his predecessor Joe Biden have made it clear that the U.S. is prepared to take drastic measures to lessen its almost total reliance on China.
This dominance has left key industries, including defence, energy, transport, and advanced medical sectors, almost entirely dependent on one source: China. Of course, China does not want its rare earths returned in the form of missiles or munitions and has leveraged its global dominance over these critical minerals as a geopolitical tool, including through the imposition of export restrictions during the recent tariff war with the Trump administration. China has also sought other strategic objectives, including favourable domestic pricing to Chinese firms and encouraging international users of these minerals to relocate their production to China. Not far off from Trump’s current ambitions of doing the same.
In the meantime, China has rapidly increased its military expenditure, effectively placing itself on a war footing with regard to advanced munitions. Today, it is estimated that China is producing these weapons at a rate five to six times faster than the U.S.
While the U.S. has recognised the strategic threat and is seeking to secure its own sources, it seems to be flailing about with wild rhetoric in this area. Proposals such as the proposed takeover of Greenland, the adoption of Canada as the 51st state, the recent mining deal with Ukraine, and early-stage investments in Africa’s Lobito Corridor Project reflect nascent efforts to speed up supply chains for concentrates and establish new refining possibilities. However, even under current plans, once fully operational, the U.S. will only be able to produce a fraction of the rare earth magnets produced in China. Beijing’s continued monopoly in this field could potentially retard the continued dominance and development of the U.S. technology sector.
Anumber of countries—including Australia, Brazil, Canada, Japan, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, the U.S., and Vietnam—have moved to develop light and heavy rare earth deposits, alongside investments in processing, research and development, and magnet manufacturing. In their attempts to gain access, the U.S., the EU, and Japan have made a number of recent investments in many of these projects, all of which are expected to need several years before yielding any meaningful production volumes. The Trump administration’s recent imposition of tariffs on these allied countries has not been helpful for these countries’ willingness to trade on American terms. They are more likely to form other alliances, alongside maintaining their own strategic reserves of these materials and pursuing their own priorities.
But China has also been seen to weaponise its dominance in this field. It banned exports of REEs to Japan in 2010 over a fishing dispute and has imposed export restrictions on the U.S. since 2023. It has also placed a ban on the export of REE extraction and separation technologies.
In recent years, both the U.S. and China have intensified their diplomatic efforts in response to the growing recognition of global dependence on China’s dominance in the field of REE production. This dominance has increased exponentially in recent years and substantially strengthened China’s geopolitical influence, enhancing its position within the world economic order and its ability to assert itself and retaliate when threatened by trade threats, such as tariffs.
It will also be interesting to see how resource-rich developing countries are able to leverage their REEs to make meaningful economic gains. History says otherwise; without control over the production, marketing, and price risk management of their resources, they face the threat of continued underdevelopment. The belligerence of the main players in this field does not augur well for the ability of these developing nations to move beyond being bit players in a more significant battle.
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