Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
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Looking for stoploss on line.
AOTonline? Challenger.com? Any others? AOT seems reasonable, $33 trade, $49.95/month, free if more than 8 trades/month. If database isn't accessed then $0/month. Seems reasonable, any opinions?- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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Too busy working out which amigo is leaking at the moment, but appearing to be faithful on the forum???
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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..AI is indeed a big worry, worker displacement especially in white collar jobs is happening and fast.
..and when robotics and autonomous vehicles become mainstream, blue collar jobs would be imperiled as well.
..then what? Humans live on UBI (universal basic income) and watch Netflix all day?
..Taxation base gets upended when individual taxes drop and taxes on the wealthy would take more prominence over time.
..there's so much tax planning in Australia that a high-income individual could end up paying less tax than an average taxpayer circa $90-100k pays without any tax arrangements. If all those tax concessions, structures, loopholes and vehicles are adequately removed, we could easily flatten the individual tax rates, fairness for all and reduce marginal tax rates across the board.
..and Australia needs to get into the AI industry in one form or another, especially in integration with the life sciences areas where we have an advantage.
Beware the great white-collar squeeze
On the one side, Amazon is warning artificial intelligence is coming for white-collar jobs. On the other, tax reform will aim at the wealthiest Australians. This will get uncomfortable.
AFR Chaticleer
Jun 20, 2025 – 10.06am
With the eyes of the world rightly trained on Iran, Amazon chief executive Andy Jassy’s warning to his employees about artificial intelligence’s threat to their jobs feels like a bit of a sideshow. But in the long run, Jassy’s gloomy prediction may turn out to be a deeply consequential moment for many Australians.
Jassy’s warning that Amazon will end up with a smaller workforce because of AI isn’t necessarily new. The potential threat posed to white-collar jobs from the technology has been recognised by several Australian chief executives, including Telstra boss Vicki Brady and Commonwealth Bank’s Matt Comyn. But there’s a bigger shift already under way in the labour market that could compound the impact of AI.
Numbers from US employment data firm Live Data Technologies shows white-collar staff numbers across US public companies have fallen 3.5 per cent in the past three years. But more recently, what could be written off as a gentle belt tightening has turned into something else.
The Wall Street Journal this week tallied up the most recent cuts. Procter & Gamble has slashed 7000 jobs, or 15 per cent of its non-manufacturing workforce. Estée Lauder and dating-app operator Match Group have each chopped 20 per cent of their managers. Microsoft is reportedly planning to cut thousands more roles, after a big round of job cuts this year. The tech sector has been particularly enthusiastic in the way it has cut staff in the past two years.
But again, it’s not just the numbers. The post-pandemic hiring binge in which wages jumped and employees held the whip hand (remember the “great resignation”?) is over and there’s a new rhetoric dominating corporate America. Jassy told his staff to learn how to operate in “scrappier” teams. Proctor & Gamble said it wanted to create “broader roles and smaller teams”. Hewlett Packard Enterprise’s chief financial officer, Marie Myers, recently told investors that “flatter is faster”.
Are these trends being replicated in Australia? The “smaller is better” rhetoric isn’t evident. But there are few public companies that don’t have some form of efficiency program running, and we have seen cracks in white-collar employment this year. Westpac confirmed 1500 job cuts last month. ASX Limited is shedding about 10 per cent of its workforce. Transurban is slashing 300 jobs, or 7 per cent of its workforce. Aurizon has cut 200 jobs. Consulting firm EY cut about 100 jobs. Zoom out, and the numbers get even bigger: the finance sector lost about 30,000 jobs last year, and Telstra cut 2800 jobs last May.
Private sector job growth is weak
Again, none of this was evident in this week’s employment data, which showed the jobless rate remained steady at 4.1 per cent. But private sector job growth is weak, and it’s the government sector that accounts for 53 per cent of the jobs created since 2019.
It’s important to remember that backdrop to the job cuts we are seeing on both sides of the Pacific. The US and Australian economies have slowed, but they are not even close to recession. Corporate profits and margins in the US are near record levels. Australia is in the midst of a three-year profit drought, but its corporate balance sheets are as strong as they’ve been in years.
However, most notably, these cuts have occurred well before the deployment of AI gathers any real momentum The billions of AI agents Jassy expects “across every company and in every imaginable field” are still some years away from becoming active. Yet already, white-collar employment is under threat, and unemployment among new US college graduates is running at 6.6 per cent, the highest level in a decade.
Last month, the chief executive of AI developer Anthropic, Dario Amodei, predicted AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white-collar jobs and send the unemployment rate to between 10 per cent and 20 per cent in the next one to five years. It suddenly doesn’t sound so far-fetched.
If Jassy is right, and AI particularly ratchets up the pressure on white-collar households, any pain will be magnified by the fact this part of Australian society has enjoyed decades of strong growth.
The combination of low interest rates, surging house prices and mushrooming super balances has driven Australian household wealth to record levels. It has made Australia one of the richest countries in the world. The data from the big banks that shows the bulk of home loans are being sold to households with over $250,000 in income isn’t just about changes in bank lending practices, but also shows the gaps that have opened up between haves and have-nots.
Of course, these white-collar households are also carrying large amounts of debt, mainly via mortgages. If they really do face the biggest hit from AI-driven unemployment, then the economic fallout won’t be pretty.
Chalmers mentioned AI only once
The day after Jassy’s warning, Treasurer Jim Chalmers delivered his big set-piece speech on the new Labor government’s economic agenda. Productivity was mentioned 28 times, but AI got only one mention, and then in only a vague promise that Labor will seek to “capitalise on the huge gains on offer, not just set guardrails”.
The speech was notable, of course, for Chalmers’ commitment to explore serious tax reform. So serious is Chalmers about this task that he urged the media not to play the game of trying to force Labor to rule any idea in or out – only for Chalmers himself to immediately rule out increasing the GST.
That would seem to hamstring the forthcoming debate somewhat. Particularly so, given Chalmers wants to reduce the tax burden on individuals, and increasing company taxes would be difficult given the business community already sees the corporate tax rate as internationally uncompetitive.
It’s obviously very early days, but the ideas pitched so far, such as lifting taxes on family trusts and increasing taxes on electric vehicles to try to offset the decline in fuel excise, seem unlikely to meet the three main pressures on the budget. Those are higher health and aged care costs, higher costs from the National Disability Insurance Scheme, and higher defence spending.
If Chalmers really is serious about shoring up the budget through tax reform, it’s inevitable that he’ll have to examine further taxes on wealth. Those could include more changes to tax breaks in superannuation or politically poisonous inheritance taxes.
Time will tell where Chalmers’ process goes, and how much political capital he’s really prepared to spend in the name of budget repair. For now at least, it’s good to see the conversation happening.
White-collar households will be hit either way
But it’s not a process that is likely to be welcomed by white-collar households. All of the ideas mentioned above – wealth taxes, changes to family trust taxation, even higher taxes on EVs – will be aimed squarely at them.
You can understand the logic: four decades of globalisation, low interest rates and fiscal stimulus have been very good for white-collar households, and much tougher for lower-skilled workers.
But this week’s comments from Jassy and Chalmers address the real potential for a white-collar squeeze to emerge in the coming years. That could happen as AI starts to hit employment – gradually at first, and then in a much more meaningful way – and the government looks for new sources of revenue.
Labor seems to be pinning its hopes on muddling through this tension in a way that protects jobs and conditions and allows it to meet its big spending commitments. But that will be a very difficult balance to pull off in the face of what Jassy calls a once-in-a-lifetime period of technology change.
Life may be about to become more uncomfortable for white-collar households than it’s been for generations.