@Parsifal You are not the apologising kind, so I do not expect an apology from you - nor do I expect this from anyone on here. People are here to pelt one another with controversy - I had no intention of doing that - I simply wrote down what I and most of my friends have felt for a long time - no-one ever, even in my circle of friends, has anything but pity and sorrow for what happened to European Jewry, but see what is going on now, as some kind of psychological need to act out the same inhumanity on the unfortunate Gazans. I never said this, this was said to me, independently by at least 4 people in my circle of friends - everyone always falls silent after that. One cannot comment on that, just wonder 'how long can this go on?'
I have no love for anyone who uses violence to solve problems, but I have eyes to see what is going on via the various news channels I watch - some overseas ones too - and for a long long time Israel has not been lily-white, but I havent' commented.
Hamas and the young generation of Palestinians - have grown up with perpetual violence practiced on them by the controlling authorities (soldiers, police wire fences) of Israel. They are now genetically programmed to hate Israel by the treatment meted out to them, daily, by Israel's organs of control.
I simply put down my thoughts I have felt over the last number of years or so, every time I turn to this thread, and - if there are some on here - I did not want to upset my Jewish friends, so I have resisted to get too deeply involved in this - we have no chance of solving this via chit-chat, anyway.
I quoted my childhood friend, because he is just as frustrated with Israel and the fact that in Austria no-one criticising Israel 'gets away with it' - and he is part-Jewish, but wasn't brought up religious. He lost relatives in the Holocaust, including a grandmother but has no memory of any of them. His mother managed to survive the war by pretending to be 'Palestinian' but was from an old and distinguished Jewish family in the Tirol - her father and grandfather were both surgeons, one in the old Imperial Army.
I can see what is going on in Europe too, with no criticism of Israel allowed, in Germany this attitude actually supports a now resurgent right-wing, of which the present chancellor is a shining example.
I am simply tired of the 'prima donna' stance of some citizens of Israel always claiming exceptionalism and forever falling back on the Holocaust to justify their own inhumanity - and having found their best expression in a man who is up on criminal charges, but has managed to hold onto power, simply by beating the war drums, and worse.
The division of India was cruel and cost many people their lives, but apart from the odd border skirmish - and recently quite a bit more, it is all resolved (and without 'Donny's intervention) - they seem to have settled into some kind of uneasy 'neighbourliness'.
If we go back far enough into history, we can always find someone to blame, but certain sections of Israeli Jewry, with some posters on here, absolutely thrive on the blame game and use it to justify their own inhumanity to the former citizens of Gaza, who we see being shuffled about, bombed, starved - nightly - on our TV screens.
Enough
Taurisk