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Originally posted by Parsifal: ↑

I am the apologising kind but there you are - I don’t think you ever actually knew me. But you aren’t always the noticing kind

I don’t care whether you didn’t intend to be controversial or provocative or anything else. Your post reeked of assumptions, untruths, half truths and opinions

your lack of knowledge about history and why Palestinians ended up with controls over them is clearly incomplete. They are not Israeli citizens and are not therefore entitled to be treated as such. Sure those who weren’t actually terrorists or don’t have the intention to blow up or stab an Israeli on Israeli soil might end up suffering but that’s the consequence of decades of trying to kill Jews - well before Israel existed and while Al Husseini got into bed with your mob of compatriots to support Hitler.

the people being permanent victims are the so called Palestinians and you appear to be among those who thought never again meant jews would what - not fight back? Not defend themselves ? What never again meant was -“ we now understand that we cannot rely on the rest of the world to not want to kill us. Well we won’t let that happen”

and so in 1948 while Britain and the US waited for Israel to be obliterated by the Arab states despite knowing every detail of what was planned Israel did the unthinkable. They not only survived and won but they kept on winning.

that’s not victimhood. That’s refusing to lie down and let people walk over them. They haven’t wallowed in the victimhood of being a nation built on refugees, they’ve got on with creating a country counted as among the happiest in the world despite what keeps being thrown at them.

they continue to be a resilient, spiritual and productive country doing their bit for the betterment of the world

but they are simply sick of people saying they can’t defend themselves, they can’t do what is necessary to protect their people. Do you think they actually like violence? Because if you do you are deeply and horribly mistaken.

you tell me what they were meant to do? Sit and wait for everything else Iran and its proxies intended after October 7. Because those plans were known. Not just by Israel but by every single commentator who understood and followed the Middle East. And they were intended to obliterate Israel. Try sucking on that for a while because your disgust with Israel’s response is either a lack of understanding of the Middle East or a lack of concern over whether another Holocaust might be perpetrated

so you can ignore history, gripe about Jews reacting to antisemitism and continue in your ignorance but I accept that years of a particular belief system is unlikely to change your perception

and you are wrong on India Pakistan btw

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