Gday dalirymple< dishonest is it? well how about you find out if kosher stuns before throat cutting and let me know, also ive been out to watch the halal slaughterers the last 2 nights and we have replaced the air powered bolt with a mushroom shaped peice that instead of penetrating the skull it just knocks animal out, halal is very messy, ie blood everywhere but when done properly it seems to go ok, but honestly its the biggest load of crap, the halal knockers love a beer and dont have time to say any prayers.