I did dig the manure, sheep, into the soil, plus got some soil enricher, then placed mulch on top, thats why I was so surprised that after 2 months still no sign of worms. The plants seem to be doing ok, but wanted to plant some vegies for summer, so wanted to really improve the condition of the soil. Perhaps you're right re the manure. If that is the case, how long should I wait before getting some more, or can I just get some more and just dig it in ??? Golden6