Just called over here from the LYC forum to see how you're going. Very pleased you have a good bunch of people on the this forum who respect what you're doing. Keep it up. To clear up the "mumbo jumbo" reference on the LYC shared thread, I hope you didn't misunderstand my use of the term. It was meant to describe the way many LT investors see your charts. I see them as very mathematical & highly developed myself and would like to be able to use them in my trading. Anything to lessen the risk. David